Maia, Jacare and Werdum are definitely ahead
Imo prime Werdum is better and od we talk about bjj for mma Maia is the best. It's not about striking threat but adapting takedowns and ground game to mma. Oliveira got tapped a few times in UFCOliveira has the best BJJ for MMA because he’s improved other facets of his fighting skills so he can get into grappling situations more fluidly.
I can’t remember which fight it was but remember when Ryan Hall spent three rounds attempting Imanari rolls and getting nowhere near catching a leg...
You are probably right, but Oliveira does have the record of submission wins in the UFC and Ryan Hall, correct me if I am wrong, is the guy with the best pure BJJ record among the ones mentioned.Werdum and Maia are easily ahead. Oliveira is a beast but look who Werdum has submiited. Cain, Big Nog and Fedor. Overeem too. That's insane
I feel like Oliveira is more proven but Hall looked more impressive. Are they the best of all time, or are Werdum and Maia ahead?
Werdum was doing similar things when he transitioned to mmaOliveira has the best BJJ for MMA because he’s improved other facets of his fighting skills so he can get into grappling situations more fluidly.
I can’t remember which fight it was but remember when Ryan Hall spent three rounds attempting Imanari rolls and getting nowhere near catching a leg...
Edit: It was the Grey Maynard fight which he apparently won by decision so he must have actually done something
He beat BJ Penn, one of the greatest LW's of all time.Hall? You mean THE Ryan Hall?! The guy that decisions Elkins?!?!? That guy is a BEAST!!! He even beat Artem Lobov! By decision!!!! He's the GOAT
He beat BJ Penn, one of the greatest LW's of all time.
Big Nog who got his arm snapped by Mir???Big Nog, Doom and Maia for me.
As far as subs in general Fedor.
Big Nog who got his arm snapped by Mir???
On paper Jacare has the best credentials. Ryan Hall is also behind WerdumYou are probably right, but Oliveira does have the record of submission wins in the UFC and Ryan Hall, correct me if I am wrong, is the guy with the best pure BJJ record among the ones mentioned.
In terms of career I agree with you, since the guys you mention have a lot more fights. But skillwise? Not sure.
He very easily could have lost that fight; it was a toss up if you ask me; he landed the cleaner offense but he spent the whole fight as you describe. I agree with you.Oliveira has the best BJJ for MMA because he’s improved other facets of his fighting skills so he can get into grappling situations more fluidly.
I can’t remember which fight it was but remember when Ryan Hall spent three rounds attempting Imanari rolls and getting nowhere near catching a leg...
Edit: It was the Grey Maynard fight which he apparently won by decision so he must have actually done something