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Oliveira vs Ryan Hall, who has the best BJJ for mma?

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  1. GUY Orange Belt

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    I feel like Oliveira is more proven but Hall looked more impressive. Are they the best of all time, or are Werdum and Maia ahead?
     
  2. Antix Champion Cheeto Fingers

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    Oliveira has the best BJJ for MMA because he’s improved other facets of his fighting skills so he can get into grappling situations more fluidly.

    I can’t remember which fight it was but remember when Ryan Hall spent three rounds attempting Imanari rolls and getting nowhere near catching a leg...

    Edit: It was the Grey Maynard fight which he apparently won by decision so he must have actually done something
     
  3. Doom Yellow Belt

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    Hall? You mean THE Ryan Hall?! The guy that decisions Elkins?!?!? That guy is a BEAST!!! He even beat Artem Lobov! By decision!!!! He's the GOAT
     
  4. michi972 Purple Belt

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    Maia, Jacare and Werdum are definitely ahead
     
  5. RemyR Red Belt Platinum Member

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  6. michi972 Purple Belt

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    Imo prime Werdum is better and od we talk about bjj for mma Maia is the best. It's not about striking threat but adapting takedowns and ground game to mma. Oliveira got tapped a few times in UFC
     
  7. TheMessiah Yellow Card Yellow Card

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    Werdum and Maia are easily ahead. Oliveira is a beast but look who Werdum has submiited. Cain, Big Nog and Fedor. Overeem too. That's insane
     
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  8. Reign009 Not sure if serious.

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    Charles has been so impressive lately. He forces a grappling match on you.

    I need to see more from Ryan tbh. I know he's very slick but I'd like to see him fight more just to see how his skills translate to MMA.
     
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  9. GUY Orange Belt

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    You are probably right, but Oliveira does have the record of submission wins in the UFC and Ryan Hall, correct me if I am wrong, is the guy with the best pure BJJ record among the ones mentioned.
    In terms of career I agree with you, since the guys you mention have a lot more fights. But skillwise? Not sure.
     
  10. dmwalking Sapateiro Belt

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    hard to say because Ryan Hall doesn’t fight enough.
     
  11. GUY Orange Belt

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    Werdum was doing similar things when he transitioned to mma
     
  12. GUY Orange Belt

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    the guys you mentioned and Oliveira are obviously better mma fighters than Hall, they have better striking and wrestling, but I am talking purely from the perspective of what happens once the fight hits the ground.
     
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    He beat BJ Penn, one of the greatest LW's of all time.
     
  14. TheScorpionDude Get over here! ~~~~~~~~~~~~==>

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    Big Nog, Doom and Maia for me.

    As far as subs in general Fedor.
     
  15. warriorfan808 Black Belt

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    BJ has been a huge drug addict for years. Last time I saw him, dude was twitching the entire time. I know... the birth of Clean and Dedicated BJ
     
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    Big Nog who got his arm snapped by Mir???
     
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    So Big Nog is a bad at BJJ?
     
  18. Yep Green Belt

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    Love Ryan but he started too late and doesn’t fight enough. He has the skills to be legendary in the bjj for mma sense but he won’t have the time to do it. He’s still honing that craft and it takes time and fights. He has neither.
     
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    On paper Jacare has the best credentials. Ryan Hall is also behind Werdum
     
  20. NicholasJBasile Hoping to fight some day...

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    He very easily could have lost that fight; it was a toss up if you ask me; he landed the cleaner offense but he spent the whole fight as you describe. I agree with you.
     

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