Who would win Oliveira Ortega?

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I believe this fight would be fireworks. I think Do Bronx is better on the ground while Ortega is a much better striker. I don't size would be too much of a factor. Honestly I think Ortega wins this one. He can counterstrike and probably knows enough to escape the submissions.
 
Ortega has heavy hands and is very durable. I think he is a better boxer as well. Charles is more dynamic with his striking and is a much better wrestler. I think Oliveira might be the better offensive grappler but if he gets sloppy Ortega would take his neck. I think Charles is past that point now though. Tough fight to call. I’m leaning towards Ortega a bit though. If it was 5 rounds I’d go Ortega. 3 rounds Charles.
 
I'd put my money on Oliveira.

I think he's probably the better striker of the two. And maybe there's an argument that Ortega has better grappling credentials, I think Oliveira's grappling for MMA, mixed with his larger size, would give him the advantage there too.

I would love to see Oliveira vs Ortega in a pure grappling match. And if this did happen and I'm just late to the game, please add the video. :D
 
Ortega has heavy hands and is very durable. I think he is a better boxer as well. Charles is more dynamic with his striking and is a much better wrestler. I think Oliveira might be the better offensive grappler but if he gets sloppy Ortega would take his neck. I think Charles is past that point now though. Tough fight to call. I’m leaning towards Ortega a bit though. If it was 5 rounds I’d go Ortega. 3 rounds Charles.
For sure heavy hands with all those ko's on his record.
 
Aloe Vera would destroy Ortega on the ground with ease but is Aloe Vera really a better striker tho? Ortega looked like a K1 striker vs KZ and KZ is one of the best strikers at 145
 
I believe this fight would be fireworks. I think Do Bronx is better on the ground while Ortega is a much better striker. I don't size would be too much of a factor. Honestly I think Ortega wins this one. He can counterstrike and probably knows enough to escape the submissions.

That is a very interesting fight.

I think Ortega is the tougher man; I think Olivera is the better grappler (and bigger man).

Would definitely shell out the $$ to watch that one.
 
Size could be an issue, but if Ortega is given time to properly bulk up to fight appropriately at 155 this is closer than some of you first page people are implying.

As someone who has been a fan of Do Bronx since his first UFC fight, its frustrating to see so many hop on the bandwagon now only to build him up as something he has yet proven to be. Here's to hoping he gets there though

Ortega is better than people give him credit for too.
 
Oliveira has a body type where he should be competing at WW by now, but is not because he did not spend enough time on strength and conditioning over the past ten years.

Oliveira could have very easily put on 10-15 pounds of muscle gradually over the last ten years, he did not, and is likely not physically strong enough to compete with the top tier guys at WW as a result.

FW at this point is unrealistic, he has missed weight at LW, if he moves weight classes he will need to be going up at this point not down.
 
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