You should give that speech to evangelicals, not me.
You mean the fundamentalists
Ok then all those claims of super natural phenomena and god speeking/communicating/interferring with man can all just be brushed off made up stories that shouldn't be taken as descripton of actual events.
Why would that be? There are different books in the bible. It is a library of books. Do you take the Diary of Anne Frank to be fiction because it sits in the same library as Moby dick?
Or are you not QUITE that fucking STUPID??? You can see some books are made to be taken literally and some not.
There is a big different between say the gospels which are based on eye witness accounts and genesis written about events far in the past? A miracle such as curing a leper is not the same as something like the theological creation story. There is not a theological allegory in curing the blind and etc in this sense.
I refuse to be as stupid as you. Sorry.
You ever wonder why you never see Jews get bent out of shape about the Earth not being 6000 years old but fundamentalists do???
In genesis there are multiple creation stories and they do not match up and it is fine because it is not literal. God is outside of our universe and time. There is no day 1 for Him.
It comes down one of 3 things being wrong if the bible is not "right" 1) God is wrong 2) Science - explaining God's creation is wrong 3) the human reading the bible is reading it wrong or in the wrong context.
Nice piece about genesis and reading the bible CORRECTLY
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Delving More Deeply
In more recent times Rabbi Abraham Isaac Kook held that scientific ideas which seem to conflict with the
need not necessarily be opposed, but can serve as stimuli to delve more deeply into the Torah and discover more profound meaning in it.
The approach of these thinkers is one that Fritz Rothschild has described as a guiding principle of Jewish biblical exegesis:
"The view that the Bible contains God’s message to man has led to ever new interpretations, since it constantly forced believing readers of the Bible to reconcile the words of the sacred text with whatever they held to be true on the basis of their own experience, the canons of logic, contemporary science, and their moral insights…. The traditionalist will always feel called upon to interpret the text so that it reflects not ancient error but the highest standards of trustworthy knowledge and insight of his own time." (Rothschild, "Truth and Metaphor in the Bible")
This approach urges us to probe more deeply into the biblical accounts of creation and to search for the intention of the Bible’s compilers in presenting these accounts. By compilers I mean those who gathered all the sources and books together and produced the Bible in the form in which it was canonized in classical Judaism. In critical terms these are the redactors of the Bible; in Franz Rosenzweig’s terms,
rabboteinu (our rabbis).
Conflicting Accounts of Creation
Whatever the intention of the individual accounts of creation may have been, it is clear from the Bible as a whole that its compilers were not overly concerned with the details of the creation story in the first chapter of Genesis. They incorporated several accounts of creation in the Bible even though no two accounts agree in detail with
Genesis 1 or with each other.
Genesis 1 describes the creation of the world in six days. The second account of creation is the story of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden (
Genesis 2).
Several other accounts are found in poetic form in Psalms, Proverbs, and Job.
Genesis 1 says that man was the last living creature created;
Genesis 2 says that he was the first.
Genesis 1 speaks of the prehistoric waters in purely naturalistic terms and says that God merely commanded them to gather in a single spot so that dry land could appear.
But in poetic passages the ancient waters are personified as rebellious sea monsters which threatened to swamp the dry land, until God subdued them and created the seashore as a boundary which they were prohibited from crossing.
The most notable difference between Genesis and all the other accounts is that none of the others mentions the idea that the world was created in six days. This idea–which is the centerpiece of the whole creationist movement–was apparently not considered important enough in the Bible to be repeated in other accounts of creation.
The fact that so many differing accounts were all accepted in the Bible shows that its compilers were not concerned about these details. They undoubtedly assumed that the differences could be reconciled, but they left this task to the ingenuity of exegetes. This virtually assured that different reconciliations would be proposed and some of the passages would have to be interpreted non-literally.
What the Bible as a whole insists on is not these details, but only what the stories have in common. In other words, these stories are regarded as poetic statements of certain basic truths, not as literally scientific accounts of how the universe developed.
The Divine Plan
What matters in Judaism are the concepts shared by all these stories: that the world was created by God, that He planned it carefully and designed it to be hospitable to man. These are the very conclusions to which astronomy now points. The other details of the biblical accounts should not be taken literally, but metaphorically or poetically.
To give just one example: the six days of creation culminating in the Sabbath on the seventh day symbolize how God guided the development of the world stage by stage according to a well-thought-out plan. The process is described as taking place over a period of seven days because seven was regarded in the ancient world as the number of perfection and seven days were regarded as the ideal length of a process. The unit of "seven days" is more a statement about the perfection of the process than a chronological statistic.
Thus a literal reading of the Bible, on which "creation science" implicitly insists, misses the point of the Bible itself, which seems uninterested in literal interpretation. Like poetry and certain kinds of prose, which sometimes speak in metaphors and symbols, the Bible as a whole does not intend these stories to be taken literally.
Literalism is not only misleading but is also a disservice to the cause of the Bible itself. It forces the Bible to compete as science, and in such a competition it cannot win. In a scientific age such as ours the Bible will never be accepted as science by educated people.
What is more, attempting to secure acceptance for it as science is hardly worthwhile, for this would divert attention away from the Bible’s religious message to details which from a religious point of view are trivial.
The religious message is precisely the realm in which science cannot compete, and those devoted to the cause of the Bible would do far better service to their cause by stressing its unique religious message. To the religious person it makes little difference whether the world was created in six days or several billion years.
What counts is the deeper message of the biblical account of creation: The world was made by a wise Creator who seeks man’s welfare, who created the world carefully with man’s benefit in mind, who created man with Godlike qualities and commanded him to administer the world wisely.
Though we observe the Sabbath every seven days, it is this deeper message which we celebrate each week. The current views of modern science deepen our understanding of this message and renew our confidence in it.