Four Q & A about BJJ history myths and misconceptions etc.
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4 Questions and Answers about BJJ History Myths
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Tl;dr: BJJ early marketers were deceptive and hated other martial arts. Nobody should care anymore
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Same stuff I've heard. The Gracies marketed their style and hated all other martial arts. Well I'm glad they did. I have a great time doing bjj.
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This stuff is so dumb. If the guy didn't stay on the ground with Helio he would have lost and if they were going by points he would have lost another match.
If I cut this guy's hands off and sewed his lips closed I wouldn't have to hear or read his what ifs any more.
If I cut this guy's hands off and sewed his lips closed I wouldn't have to hear or read his what ifs any more.
I liked the GTR blog/book about his training expierences in Rio after jiu jitsu became exposed around the world and his histories that he put out are interesting and seem well researched, but it definetly seemed like he had an axe to grind. As someone stated above something good and very effective and unique came out of all the hype, shenanigans, etc. I didn't read the third book, but did he ever address this?
The thing i don't really understand about GTR is this: Apparently Helio and Carols couldn't fight for shit. Then how did they teach their children to fight? Honestly? How were the gracies able to even put up a fight in the early days of VTD?
Most of what people recognize as BJJ today started with Carlson and his guys in the 1950's. He took the rudimentary techniques of Carlos and Helio, started cross training in Judo, Wrestling, etc., and started fighting real fighters and incorporated learnings from that. His impressive stable of students continued to refine and develop the art in the 1960's, 1970's, and 1980's.
Also keep in mind, as pointed out by Pedreira, the vast majority of Helio's fights weren't actually vale tudos. They were grappling-only matches, more often than not in gis. And what they were teaching people at the Gracie Academy in the 1930's and 1940's was mostly kata-like stand up self defense stuff against bear hugs and frankenstein chokes.
