30 years from now, people are gonna look back @USADA and UFC war against PEDs and laugh at stupidity

[snw10mm]

Arnold is probably on trt right now and looks great, so do many 70 bodybuilders.

Arnold got where he is because of PEDs....became a millionaire so I'm sure he loves em.

Well you win the argument them. I've been defeated.

 

[ClosetVitorFan]

Right now we are in the "Reefer Madness" era of ped propaganda. Just like the real reefer madness of the 1930's passed. This will pass too. Shit Marijuana is legal in a few states and only getting legal in more. So that right there is progress.

In the future peds will be safer. But even now they are safe under a doctors care. TRT is a thing.

 

[Tamburlaine]

The only stupidity we're laughing at is yours.

Just like the drug war right now, people are gonna look at all the athletes lifes tarnished because of this ped war and laugh at our short sidedness.

30 years from now, science is gonna prove that PEDs vastly improve fighters and people's life, not just in becomeling better athletes but in having a better life after MMA.

Society will be less ignorant and finally accept the cold hard facts that PEDs help...and no PEDs is actually a crime against fighters.

Look at Big Foot Silva, trt gave the man a decent chin. Now he is getting KOd frequently which isn't good for the brain at all just because some idiots believe ped propaganda.

And to all the purist out there, who want to know who is the best natty fighter....Bros, these guys take so many supplements, use cyrotheraphy, use elevation emulators.... None of which are natural even though they are legal...so nobody is natty already.

As for fighters who want to stay natty and compete....well like any job, u have to adapt or chose a new career but I have a feeling fighters wont have a problem with it since society will be OK..fact is athletes are ashamed right now and act as they are against it because of society.

The reason I picked 30 years from now, it's because transhumanism is coming(play Deus ex to learn about it)....Regular human beings will be upgraded so it will be pathetic that trained fighters wont stand a chance against these upgraded beings watching mma...so they will have to evolved to keep ppl entertained.

So yeah...anybody who is against PEDs right now, prepare to be laughed @ and be ridiculed by your grand children.

 

[Headkicktoleg]

In 30 years all the guys who abused PED will be dead from internal organ failure

 

[Pls Respond]

Yeh, they said that in the seventies...

Now look at all the athletes from the former East Germany, the men have grown boobs, the women grown beards and in some cases are now living as men... 30 years on they are all living the high life


They said it in the nineties, whilst conveniently ignoring the deaths of all the athletes from EPO

Then we can throw in the batch of American cyclists with Testicular Cancer, Chrohns disease...

The lets chuck in all the athletes who post career battled with depression and addiction (often as a result of ped use)

How about all those natty people who fought and did thought sport before PEDs...their quality of life is shit.

I'm interested to see evidence of your claims, I have feeling they are rare cases and not an epidemic like u make it seem.

I know for a fact old school fighters/athletes suffered alot.

Show me evidence that PEDs give athletes depression and addiction..pls do, u propaganda machine.

 

[Forever Young]

Look, TS, you make some really good points, and clearly have potential. But, I think you're gonna knead to take the mr pink gimmick to the next level.

"Why don't you come over here and show me your evidence you piece of shit? You're not listening to history you stupid little cocksucker. Why don't I cut your fucking ear off; maybe then you can listen better?"

 

[dim_]

How about all those natty people who fought and did thought sport before PEDs...their quality of life is shit.

I'm interested to see evidence of your claims, I have feeling they are rare cases and not an epidemic like u make it seem.

I know for a fact old school fighters/athletes suffered alot.

Show me evidence that PEDs give athletes depression and addiction..pls do, u propaganda machine.

Start with the east Germans 30-40 years ago and see how they are doing now



Epidemic? The epidemic of cylists dying from EPO in the early 90's is sadly not very well documented. Many buried without post mortems, and details kept covered up. Depression an addiction problems? There are many many documented cases of sportsmen and women suffering mental health conditions that have been directly linked to doping.. check the suicide details of athletes over the last 20 years...

can i be bothered to spend 2 hours putting sources together to please someone on sherdog.. no, probably not

 

[xFeeLPaiN]

if they´d improve health they wouldnt be illegal, just very expensive

 

[memphis0789]

Yeh, they said that in the seventies...

Now look at all the athletes from the former East Germany, the men have grown boobs, the women grown beards and in some cases are now living as men... 30 years on they are all living the high life


They said it in the nineties, whilst conveniently ignoring the deaths of all the athletes from EPO

Then we can throw in the batch of American cyclists with Testicular Cancer, Chrohns disease...

The lets chuck in all the athletes who post career battled with depression and addiction (often as a result of ped use)

at least someone understands and actually does a little research peds are bad for u long term period theres no way around it ur body isnt meant to run high octane balls to the walls all the time amd def not well into your 40'. secondly testosterone would not have improved bigfoots ability to take a punch at all thats just pure broscience.

 

[SwagJuice]

 

[Tormund]

Somebodies salty because all your fighters are/were PED abusers.

 

[HI SCOTT NEWMAN]

Agreed TS.

 

[I am Everywhere]

In 30 years, people will be self healing themselves with nanobots during the fights

 

[Pls Respond]

Start with the east Germans 30-40 years ago and see how they are doing now



Epidemic? The epidemic of cylists dying from EPO in the early 90's is sadly not very well documented. Many buried without post mortems, and details kept covered up. Depression an addiction problems? There are many many documented cases of sportsmen and women suffering mental health conditions that have been directly linked to doping.. check the suicide details of athletes over the last 20 years...

can i be bothered to spend 2 hours putting sources together to please someone on sherdog.. no, probably not

Ill see the whole video later but it sounds like to me that they were experimenting with abusive amounts...Hell I doubt they knew about post cycle therapy back then.

Same can be said about any new medicine/surgery techniques etc...When people don't know, problems come which happened in East Germany.

So you have no evidence about the EPO? Again another forefront of science.


Bro, so Athletes do suicide and you blame it on PED's LMFAO...not on all the other drugs/mental issues which they may have gotten thru this luscious life style?.....Sorry but Im 100% sure you have zero prove on this last claim.


Now a days, there is plenty of info on steroids....No forefront of tech/medicine which can lead to bad outcomes...With this info, comes safer use of PED's. This is why I know lots of people who don't show any symptoms of PED side effects because they take care of themselves to prevent such things like post cycle therapy, etc.

 

[soulsstealer]

Drugs have sideeffects so unless you are suffering from some ailement already usually not worth it to take them.

 

[Pls Respond]

 

[ZuffaExecutive]

A common problem with steriods is that they force the muscles to grow faster then the surrounding ligaments and result in people becomming more prone to knee injuries and spinal disk injuries

 

[dim_]

Now a days, there is plenty of info on steroids....No forefront of tech/medicine which can lead to bad outcomes...With this info, comes safer use of PED's. This is why I know lots of people who don't show any symptoms of PED side effects because they take care of themselves to prevent such things like post cycle therapy, etc.

We cant possibly know now, what the long term effects of current day PED's will be in 30 years. Unless we have time machines.

All we can go on is historically what we have seen, from PED abuse in the 70's, 80's and early 90's..

Christ, look at the number of heart attacks under 50 from former wrestlers etc.

Im sure everyone in the 70's and 80's said "in 30 years when im showing no side effects you all gonna look really dumb"

 

[dim_]

A common problem with steriods is that they force the muscles to grow faster then the surrounding ligaments and result in people becomming more prone to knee injuries and spinal disk injuries

something we see a lot of in soccer.

 

[thekartesian]

Lol at your feeble attempt at an opinion on transhumanism, something you learned about yesterday from a video game.