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2nd amateur fight, first win - technique feedback please

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im red corner
My biggest concerns are all of the missed head kicks. The pads on my feet were non existent as I warmed up on a hard, matted carpet that wore off all the friction, however I think the slips were me kicking from way out of range and trying to scoot in at the end which swept me. I also think I need to get better at finishing combinations with a kick, but I'm always really focused on "getting out" after I land my punches that I typically never finish with a kick or throw it single. Any thoughts, tips, criticism would be appreciated. Thanks

edit: also very aware how forced my head kicks are and how easily my opponent can see them coming.
 
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I wouldn't want to mess with you. Nice 1, 2s and knees. You were anxious in the beginning, but once you started picking your shots you landed some nice ones. Good aggression.
 
Looking good man, you were miles ahead of your opponent.
You could use a couple more feints to get him moving and then crack him with a second or third attack. Notice how often when he's circling to your left, when you punched he'd lean to your left? Get him circling that way, fake a punch and let him lean into a left high kick.
Also good that you were thinking clearly enough to get out after you through. Don't go so far out that you dis-engage completely though. Move back far enough that if he throws you're safe but still able to get back in with a fast counter.

The way you kept the pressure on him in round 2 when you hurt him, when you started to play, try to keep that feeling the whole fight. Intense pressure, keen to grab an opening but still defensively aware, that's the way. Excellent instincts.

At 1:03 (or so) left in rd 3, you moved to a beautiful angle but then let him go. Again at 0:53, you avoided the overhand but let the countering opportunity go.

Good takedown defence throughout. Once you've succesfully killed his takedown attempt, re-engage with some strikes and make him pay.

As I said man, good instincts. I'm keen to see your next one. When you going again?
 
Looking good man, you were miles ahead of your opponent.
You could use a couple more feints to get him moving and then crack him with a second or third attack. Notice how often when he's circling to your left, when you punched he'd lean to your left? Get him circling that way, fake a punch and let him lean into a left high kick.
Also good that you were thinking clearly enough to get out after you through. Don't go so far out that you dis-engage completely though. Move back far enough that if he throws you're safe but still able to get back in with a fast counter.

The way you kept the pressure on him in round 2 when you hurt him, when you started to play, try to keep that feeling the whole fight. Intense pressure, keen to grab an opening but still defensively aware, that's the way. Excellent instincts.

At 1:03 (or so) left in rd 3, you moved to a beautiful angle but then let him go. Again at 0:53, you avoided the overhand but let the countering opportunity go.

Good takedown defence throughout. Once you've succesfully killed his takedown attempt, re-engage with some strikes and make him pay.

As I said man, good instincts. I'm keen to see your next one. When you going again?

Dude thanks for the reply. I remember angling off in the 3rd and that left being wide open but for some reason only testing the distance and not striking. Not sure why I didn't commit, but I'll learn from it. I hear you with the left high kick, however I'm just not that confident (flexible perhaps?) in my lhk, definitely need to work on it.

I'm scheduled for another fight, same promotion same spot on the 21st of next month. I'll be facing a gritty wrestler that likes to clinch box.

PS: I've been training for only 1 year so I've still got lots to learn!
 
I wouldn't want to mess with you. Nice 1, 2s and knees. You were anxious in the beginning, but once you started picking your shots you landed some nice ones. Good aggression.

Thank you for the response. His aggression in the beginning was something I was wary of. I also got caught by aggression/judo in my first fight that led to a quick arm bar, so distance was something I wanted to establish early.
 
That was great. I enjoyed your performance. Funny thing: your opponent's coach, Todd Medina, was my first jiu jitsu instructor. I also enjoyed the commentary from--if I'm identifying him correctly--that sounds like mma comedian "Renato Laranja." He's a funny guy.

Anyway, on to the technique. Very good for somebody who hasn't been doing this very long. I really like the way you held the back of his neck and hit him when he was down. That was great. I don't see enough mmartists do that. For some reason, a lot of people just stand there swinging and missing with both hands, rather than holding the head in one place and hitting it with the other hand. Awesome job. You did a good job finding opportunities for knees when he would initiate a clinch. When you do those, flex your abs before you throw and really thrust with the hips to spear the knee forward, rather than swinging the upper surface of the knee towards him in an arc. The more thrusting the knee is, the more damaging.

I can see where those head-kicks would have been more on-point if you had more traction. I also like the opportunity you saw in the beginning to throw a snap-kick to the body. I think that helped start the wariness he felt that ultimately enabled you to control the whole flow of the fight.

And I apologize if any of this is old news to you, I know there's often a difference between what we know, and what we're able to demonstrate in a fight, or maybe what an observer is able to pick up on. So, in my opinion, the commentators were right though: your chin is up. There are people who can make a more "traditional martial arts" (ie. karate, kung fu, etc) style work in mma, with the head pulled up and back, but I think it's a better idea to go with the style of head positioning used by the other, full-contact striking sports, that is: boxing, muay thai, etc. in which the chin is more tucked down or behind the shoulder. Trying to make your head far away from the guy at the same time you're trying to punch him by pulling your face back away from him is not what I would consider the best technique.

It looks like you have pretty long arms, so this might work for you for a little while, and against certain people, but eventually, you're going to have to rely more on timing, and getting your head out of the way of any possible return strikes coming at you at the same time as your punch by making sure your head is not in the path of any possible simultaneous strikes--like to the side of the possible strike, rather than being too far away for his punch to reach you. Or, alternately, if both you and your opponent throw a punch at the same time, your chin is more protected at the moment of impact by an obstruction such as your shoulder or hand, or protected by your posture being better to absorb the impact...or his hits your forehead and yours hits his chin--something like that. These are generalizations. In boxing, when you throw a check hook, you're kind of pulling your head out of range of your opponent's strike as you land yours, but that's sort of a different thing.

Boxers obviously try to slip or duck punches, or parry them to the side with their arm or glove, or block them. I'm sure you know that, but what I want to suggest, is that--even before you get to the point where you can matrix out of the way of everyone's punches like old-school Anderson Silva--you try to incorporate more boxing-style defensive movement into your game. That would be my suggestion. More lateral footwork and movement of your body would help your offense, too. There were moments when you had hurt him, and if you had had a little more time up close to him, you might have finished him off. Instead he was able to back or circle away. Using roundhouse kicks to the legs and body can help you corral someone when he is trying to move away.

One more thing. I'm guessing you mostly came to this forum for striking advice, but I've got to say: he did give you that guillotine a few times. I know you're new at this, just make sure you get that down fairly soon. That's just one of those fundamental mma things. You HAVE to know certain things in mma. You have to know how to sprawl. You have to know how to throw a decent punch. You have to know how not to give up position on the ground. And you definitely need a decent guillotine in amateur mma. If you didn't want to throw your hips under him and commit to a dangerous position at this stage in your education as a fighter, with your long arms, you could have at least tried for a prayer choke. Hell, even if you were really enthusiastic about the idea of pounding this guy out with your strikes, you could have used a little grappling leverage to get there--wrap your arm that's headlocking him across to grab the tricep of one the arms he's using to post with. Eric Paulson calls this position "Bakersfield." You can also cup his chin in your hand. When you've got your hand around his upper arm or his chin, you're limiting his ability to move out of the position...you're limiting his ability to move out of the way of your strikes...it's a win-win all around.

Anyways, that's my two cents. You looked good, and I hope you keep doing this as long as you're having fun and it's a positive influence in your life.
 
That was great. I enjoyed your performance. Funny thing: your opponent's coach, Todd Medina, was my first jiu jitsu instructor. I also enjoyed the commentary from--if I'm identifying him correctly--that sounds like mma comedian "Renato Laranja." He's a funny guy.

Anyway, on to the technique. Very good for somebody who hasn't been doing this very long. I really like the way you held the back of his neck and hit him when he was down. That was great. I don't see enough mmartists do that. For some reason, a lot of people just stand there swinging and missing with both hands, rather than holding the head in one place and hitting it with the other hand. Awesome job. You did a good job finding opportunities for knees when he would initiate a clinch. When you do those, flex your abs before you throw and really thrust with the hips to spear the knee forward, rather than swinging the upper surface of the knee towards him in an arc. The more thrusting the knee is, the more damaging.

I can see where those head-kicks would have been more on-point if you had more traction. I also like the opportunity you saw in the beginning to throw a snap-kick to the body. I think that helped start the wariness he felt that ultimately enabled you to control the whole flow of the fight.

And I apologize if any of this is old news to you, I know there's often a difference between what we know, and what we're able to demonstrate in a fight, or maybe what an observer is able to pick up on. So, in my opinion, the commentators were right though: your chin is up. There are people who can make a more "traditional martial arts" (ie. karate, kung fu, etc) style work in mma, with the head pulled up and back, but I think it's a better idea to go with the style of head positioning used by the other, full-contact striking sports, that is: boxing, muay thai, etc. in which the chin is more tucked down or behind the shoulder. Trying to make your head far away from the guy at the same time you're trying to punch him by pulling your face back away from him is not what I would consider the best technique.

It looks like you have pretty long arms, so this might work for you for a little while, and against certain people, but eventually, you're going to have to rely more on timing, and getting your head out of the way of any possible return strikes coming at you at the same time as your punch by making sure your head is not in the path of any possible simultaneous strikes--like to the side of the possible strike, rather than being too far away for his punch to reach you. Or, alternately, if both you and your opponent throw a punch at the same time, your chin is more protected at the moment of impact by an obstruction such as your shoulder or hand, or protected by your posture being better to absorb the impact...or his hits your forehead and yours hits his chin--something like that. These are generalizations. In boxing, when you throw a check hook, you're kind of pulling your head out of range of your opponent's strike as you land yours, but that's sort of a different thing.

Boxers obviously try to slip or duck punches, or parry them to the side with their arm or glove, or block them. I'm sure you know that, but what I want to suggest, is that--even before you get to the point where you can matrix out of the way of everyone's punches like old-school Anderson Silva--you try to incorporate more boxing-style defensive movement into your game. That would be my suggestion. More lateral footwork and movement of your body would help your offense, too. There were moments when you had hurt him, and if you had had a little more time up close to him, you might have finished him off. Instead he was able to back or circle away. Using roundhouse kicks to the legs and body can help you corral someone when he is trying to move away.

One more thing. I'm guessing you mostly came to this forum for striking advice, but I've got to say: he did give you that guillotine a few times. I know you're new at this, just make sure you get that down fairly soon. That's just one of those fundamental mma things. You HAVE to know certain things in mma. You have to know how to sprawl. You have to know how to throw a decent punch. You have to know how not to give up position on the ground. And you definitely need a decent guillotine in amateur mma. If you didn't want to throw your hips under him and commit to a dangerous position at this stage in your education as a fighter, with your long arms, you could have at least tried for a prayer choke. Hell, even if you were really enthusiastic about the idea of pounding this guy out with your strikes, you could have used a little grappling leverage to get there--wrap your arm that's headlocking him across to grab the tricep of one the arms he's using to post with. Eric Paulson calls this position "Bakersfield." You can also cup his chin in your hand. When you've got your hand around his upper arm or his chin, you're limiting his ability to move out of the position...you're limiting his ability to move out of the way of your strikes...it's a win-win all around.

Anyways, that's my two cents. You looked good, and I hope you keep doing this as long as you're having fun and it's a positive influence in your life.

Two cents? OP might owe YOU some dollars after that critique.

Lol at Eric Paulson calling that position Bakersfield...any idea why?
 


im red corner
My biggest concerns are all of the missed head kicks. The pads on my feet were non existent as I warmed up on a hard, matted carpet that wore off all the friction, however I think the slips were me kicking from way out of range and trying to scoot in at the end which swept me. I also think I need to get better at finishing combinations with a kick, but I'm always really focused on "getting out" after I land my punches that I typically never finish with a kick or throw it single. Any thoughts, tips, criticism would be appreciated. Thanks

edit: also very aware how forced my head kicks are and how easily my opponent can see them coming.


Great fight. I like how you escaped quickly when he had your back (standing).

Headkicks like you guessed were mostly out of range, they were also without setup. I would set it up more. I find more success with head and leg kicks when the opponent is backing up from hands.

Looks like you started to get in your groove from 2nd.

So I would say the only thing I would like to see more would be:
-Ending combinations with a kick
-Cage control: You tend to move back a bit when you're on defense. When you're on the attack and pressing, you look great.
Maybe work on initiating a clinch when they press past your range while staying firm.

But regardless, congrats on the win, its a great feeling esp after you have suffered a loss.
 
Great fight. I like how you escaped quickly when he had your back (standing).

Headkicks like you guessed were mostly out of range, they were also without setup. I would set it up more. I find more success with head and leg kicks when the opponent is backing up from hands.

Looks like you started to get in your groove from 2nd.

So I would say the only thing I would like to see more would be:
-Ending combinations with a kick
-Cage control: You tend to move back a bit when you're on defense. When you're on the attack and pressing, you look great.
Maybe work on initiating a clinch when they press past your range while staying firm.

But regardless, congrats on the win, its a great feeling esp after you have suffered a loss.
That was great. I enjoyed your performance. Funny thing: your opponent's coach, Todd Medina, was my first jiu jitsu instructor. I also enjoyed the commentary from--if I'm identifying him correctly--that sounds like mma comedian "Renato Laranja." He's a funny guy.

Anyway, on to the technique. Very good for somebody who hasn't been doing this very long. I really like the way you held the back of his neck and hit him when he was down. That was great. I don't see enough mmartists do that. For some reason, a lot of people just stand there swinging and missing with both hands, rather than holding the head in one place and hitting it with the other hand. Awesome job. You did a good job finding opportunities for knees when he would initiate a clinch. When you do those, flex your abs before you throw and really thrust with the hips to spear the knee forward, rather than swinging the upper surface of the knee towards him in an arc. The more thrusting the knee is, the more damaging.

I can see where those head-kicks would have been more on-point if you had more traction. I also like the opportunity you saw in the beginning to throw a snap-kick to the body. I think that helped start the wariness he felt that ultimately enabled you to control the whole flow of the fight.

And I apologize if any of this is old news to you, I know there's often a difference between what we know, and what we're able to demonstrate in a fight, or maybe what an observer is able to pick up on. So, in my opinion, the commentators were right though: your chin is up. There are people who can make a more "traditional martial arts" (ie. karate, kung fu, etc) style work in mma, with the head pulled up and back, but I think it's a better idea to go with the style of head positioning used by the other, full-contact striking sports, that is: boxing, muay thai, etc. in which the chin is more tucked down or behind the shoulder. Trying to make your head far away from the guy at the same time you're trying to punch him by pulling your face back away from him is not what I would consider the best technique.

It looks like you have pretty long arms, so this might work for you for a little while, and against certain people, but eventually, you're going to have to rely more on timing, and getting your head out of the way of any possible return strikes coming at you at the same time as your punch by making sure your head is not in the path of any possible simultaneous strikes--like to the side of the possible strike, rather than being too far away for his punch to reach you. Or, alternately, if both you and your opponent throw a punch at the same time, your chin is more protected at the moment of impact by an obstruction such as your shoulder or hand, or protected by your posture being better to absorb the impact...or his hits your forehead and yours hits his chin--something like that. These are generalizations. In boxing, when you throw a check hook, you're kind of pulling your head out of range of your opponent's strike as you land yours, but that's sort of a different thing.

Boxers obviously try to slip or duck punches, or parry them to the side with their arm or glove, or block them. I'm sure you know that, but what I want to suggest, is that--even before you get to the point where you can matrix out of the way of everyone's punches like old-school Anderson Silva--you try to incorporate more boxing-style defensive movement into your game. That would be my suggestion. More lateral footwork and movement of your body would help your offense, too. There were moments when you had hurt him, and if you had had a little more time up close to him, you might have finished him off. Instead he was able to back or circle away. Using roundhouse kicks to the legs and body can help you corral someone when he is trying to move away.

One more thing. I'm guessing you mostly came to this forum for striking advice, but I've got to say: he did give you that guillotine a few times. I know you're new at this, just make sure you get that down fairly soon. That's just one of those fundamental mma things. You HAVE to know certain things in mma. You have to know how to sprawl. You have to know how to throw a decent punch. You have to know how not to give up position on the ground. And you definitely need a decent guillotine in amateur mma. If you didn't want to throw your hips under him and commit to a dangerous position at this stage in your education as a fighter, with your long arms, you could have at least tried for a prayer choke. Hell, even if you were really enthusiastic about the idea of pounding this guy out with your strikes, you could have used a little grappling leverage to get there--wrap your arm that's headlocking him across to grab the tricep of one the arms he's using to post with. Eric Paulson calls this position "Bakersfield." You can also cup his chin in your hand. When you've got your hand around his upper arm or his chin, you're limiting his ability to move out of the position...you're limiting his ability to move out of the way of your strikes...it's a win-win all around.

Anyways, that's my two cents. You looked good, and I hope you keep doing this as long as you're having fun and it's a positive influence in your life.

Damn dude, so much great insight.
I'm going to work tirelessly on keeping my chin down. Getting knocked out is something I want to leave off my bucket list. Watching my fight over and over I see so many opportunities to finish with kicks, however I have this "get in, get out" mentality. My body wants to get just enough in range, send straight punches down the pipe, then get out before I take any damage or get tangled up. I think it will take a lot of implementing finishing with kicks in sparring for me to get over the mental hurdle. I won't learn that on the bag - I do finish with kicks on the bag =\.

I know the guillotine was there. I actually like my guillotine and d'arce. Like I mentioned before, I lost my first match quickly to arm bar so it was a big part of my game plan to avoid grappling. I'm also a profuse sweater, so sometimes if my shit isn't absurdly tight my opponents can slip out like a wet soap.

Thank you again for taking the time to respond. I will be sure to adjust.
 
Great fight. I like how you escaped quickly when he had your back (standing).

Headkicks like you guessed were mostly out of range, they were also without setup. I would set it up more. I find more success with head and leg kicks when the opponent is backing up from hands.

Looks like you started to get in your groove from 2nd.

So I would say the only thing I would like to see more would be:
-Ending combinations with a kick
-Cage control: You tend to move back a bit when you're on defense. When you're on the attack and pressing, you look great.
Maybe work on initiating a clinch when they press past your range while staying firm.

But regardless, congrats on the win, its a great feeling esp after you have suffered a loss.

I really don't want to initiate the clinch. I'm strong in the clinch, however my first match I was lateral dropped twice in a minute and then arm barred (rookie mistakes completely), so I know that my opponents will watch that film and game plan it. Clinching to the fence was my plan B if I were to be out struck.
 
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