But by those actions you think they will just say... ok you win let's reverse everything. It literally would never work. Forceful pressure on the govt by those few would accomplish nothing. It was a pointless action with only a bad outcome. You cannot apply pressure that way with police/military backing the govt. It was always a lose lose.
Can't, it's from the thread of the NY Post reporting on Hunter Biden's laptop, where Christopher's Wray's FBI pressured social media platforms to censor and hide the information from voters to rig the election, and responses are locked.
He's one of the main people that started turning me off to the Republican party. At the end of the day we have two parties and we need to compromise and respect who the voters elect. Some terms it will be Republicans and some it will be Democrats. Throwing hissy fits and shutting down the government if you don't get your way is toddler level theatrics but when it's government dysfunction you're causing instead of a spill on aisle three it should be a crime.
Had the plan worked they would've had the backing of the sitting president(i.e. the Commander in Chief of the military) as well as lawmakers in Congress. And had Pence did what Trump asked of him who knows what would've happened. Thankfully Pence was willing to stand up to his president and do the right thing for the country but it was absolutely an attempted coup by Trump that devolved into an insurrection when his little army of traitors stormed the Capitol.
It doesn't mean they didn't try it even if it was impossible. How many times did Trump's WH counsel have to tell him not to think of doing something or he would go to jail and then have to threaten to resign if he continued to press the issue?
Illegal actions taking and get backing from congress? No dude... this was a relatively few idiots that decided to do a stupid thing. I don't buy into the fbi conspiracy at present and don't buy into this one.
Trump claims something and MAGALand goes along with it...
Don't know how much they tried but it's like any guy in a standoff with police. Whatever they think is going to happen... isn't going to happen and won't end well.
Its not a conspiracy theory, this is documented. Ted Cruz is the most high profile Republican who was in on the coup attempt but there were others
To try to equate the baseless fedsurrection idea with the out in the open conspiracy Trump engaged in to overturn the election is deeply unfair, misguided, and suggests you're not well informed about the details of Trump's plan.
Except in this case the people standing off with the police had the backing of the sitting president.
Yet Ted Cruz is not in jail....and Trump is back in office..
What point do you think that proves? Not even Trump is in jail and he's the mastermind of it all. I would agree that this shows a problem with the DOJ but Trump was able to successfully convince people that the DOJ was "weaponized" for trying to hold him to account for the events of Jan 6th so if anything Cruz was a smaller fish to fry by comparison and thus less likely to be held to account.
With protests maybe but not with invasion and overthrow. It may delay it for a few days but ultimately it would accomplish nothing.
So you believe all of this but not that the FBI could have been there encouraging this to happen (not a conspiracy i subscribe to at present)? I'm not doing anything but trying to finish off our discussion. This topic has been beaten to death in here.
Why would Trump need an invasion? He is the sitting president, if he got Congress to overturn the election he stays in power. He had almost a dozen Senators like Ted Cruz willing to go along with his cockamamie scheme and if Pence was in on it too who knows what might've happened. It would've been an unprecedented constitutional crisis.
Yes of course because there's a mountain of evidence for what I'm claiming and there's none for the fedsurrection claims. In fact many of the people involved don't deny that they were involved like Trump himself whose defense in court was not that he didn't do it but that he is entitled to criminal immunity. You're not equating these two claims are you? I've been able to produce evidence of my assertions, has anyone here produced evidence that Feds were present at Jan 6th and instigated the riots? Not that I've seen and in fact the report you cited in the OP suggests the opposite.
If it was indeed as cut and try as you say then Trump would have been in jail... he wasn't even CHARGED with it until the end of 2023 heading into an election year. Years after the occurrence.... just come on guy.... look back at my first comment. I wasn't on about the conspiracy but on whether the report was just released after the election for a reason possobly not wanting to affect this election. Not hashing up all the conspiracies.. Some in here will def do it anyway because they want to see fbi involvement. Conspiracy of Trump involvement or the converse of the FBI wasn't my original and I'm sure there are plenty of conspiracy guys in here to check in on both sides.
What part of what I'm saying here do you think isn't true? Cruz is on record trying to help overturn the election in favor of Trump. We have Trump's fake electors on video. We know from testimony that Trump was delighted about the break in at the Capitol and we know it took him over three hours to tell them to go home. We know he wanted Pence to reject the legitimate electors in favor of his fake electors, he said as much in the very speech he made before the riot. Here are some excerpts from that speech, what do you think Trump is trying to say here?
What do you think he means when he says he wants Pence to "do the right thing" and "save our democracy"? What are these "lawfully slated" electors Trump is talking about? Are you really denying that Trump tried to overturn the election when he spent months saying that was what he was trying to do?
