These people will scrounge for the flimsiest evidence for their conspiracies all while ignoring the mountains of evidence against Trump in front of them. Notice @Cajun didn't address a single piece of evidence I've cited here but is very sure based on no evidence that the charges against Trump are political.
It's smarter because they can have instigators on their payroll, but claim a different method of payment. Just like when a felon sets up a drug bust as an informant, it's really only them and not the Feds that paid him and are waiting to swoop in orchestrating everything.
Because all of these things are still being debated dude. Some of the takes on the Capital rioters are partisan imo. Not that they get off bc what they did was criminal but a lot of the responses I've seen in here aren't honest takes. Again, I haven't voted for Trump in a single primary. He just keeps getting in the general. But I've listened to both sides of this argument and there is a debate to be had. The timing of all these charges is suspect and majority of Americans polled believe there was some politics behind it.
Definitely a crime and definitely should be punished imo. We can't have these things become acceptable.
Is there any evidence of that?
Where are these dishonest, partisan takes? With all due respect the one that is coming off that way increasingly is you. You haven't addressed even a single piece of evidence I've cited, instead deciding your gut feeling is more valuable. That just tells me its about supporting your side against the evidence rather than trying to figure out what happened. That's your right to think Trump is the right guy for America but when you dismiss evidence and make baseless claims you come off as a partisan supporter.
You haven't really listened to both sides though, you've completely ignored what I've said and instead are entertaining conspiracy theories about a fedsurrection. Sure you're not claiming it definitely happened but you're saying, with no evidence, that there might've been something funny going on there when we have no reason to think this was the case and every reason to think they were there was because of Trump.
Hearing you and agreeing with you are not the same. The entire take that they were there to invade the capital and pressure congress and that was the plan. It's purely speculative and even the videos of the people inside taking pictures and goofing off.... not going room to room to "find" congress. And that this was a real plan set in motion.
This just proves you're not actually listening to one side, you can't even accurately summarize my take. Its your right to take a side but don't pretend you're trying to hear both sides and making a decision based on the evidence because you're clearly not.
I don't believe that at all though because I showed you evidence of Trump trying to overturn the election and you ignore it. Evidence doesn't seem to matter much at all to you, you seem allergic to it even.
I didn't mean specifically your take as I've argued with several in this thread. Evidence doesn't seem to matter to the majority of Americans including independents that the majority believes along the lines as me that it was a political move? And maybe something would be remotely credible if they didn't charge him for everything and the kitchen sink (New York stuff) all just prior to the election year. FBI at hearings: I'm unaware of anyone fbi or cis at the capital. Also the fbi.... there were actually 26 cis at the capital... from blocking Bernie out of 2016, to Russia collusion, to New York stuff that majority thought political... to govt overthrow... you name it they have tried to do nonsense recently especially with Trump so lots of people are skeptical. Not....oh... yeah this is all an innocent honest justice department just doing their job... again on my take I'm in the majority that don't believe what you have is proof.
Stephen a is a voter tired of this surprise crap every time... he represents the majority of Americans at this point....you're talking way more than just maga... its centrists, independents etc...
“What’s the point of me repeating my ridiculous msnbc nonsense? Nobody even blindly believes me!”
I think it's very presumptuous to think you can speak for the majority. I best most voters don't even know about the evidence I've cited. Tbh you don't either, you just ignore like an ostrich with its head in the sand.
I imagine you would not take Stephen A Smith's take on MMA seriously but now that it's convenient you're citing his political opinion?
It's funny how Republicans went from denying that election results should determine who takes office to insisting that Trump getting 49% of the vote not only means he should take office, but also that his fans are right about every issue.
We all know that around 98% of them were arrested. Then take a look at that number that got arrested. Then take a look of the number you provided. It's not rocket science.
We do?
www.latimes.com
We need a gif of Shay Shay lifting his lips up by his nose. "Now, Caj, Caj, c'mon, Caj..."
I think it was someone else that cited a number but can we agree that the majority of those indicted entered the building but that the majority of the crowd stayed outside?
2000 Wizards will defend our democracy...
Indeed,
We do?
"A lot of attendees are believed to have peeled off as the siege turned violent. Experts say it’s challenging to accurately estimate the crowd size because of the absence of aerial imagery, but they put a broad crowd size estimate at “several thousand.”"Key facts to know about the Jan. 6 insurrection
How many people took part in the Jan. 6 Capitol riot? How many were arrested? How long did Trump speak before the insurrection? The answers readers need to know.
"By February 1, 2021, 228 people from 39 U.S. states and the District of Columbia (D.C.) had been charged with federal or D.C. offences or both.[3] By early September, there were over 600 federal defendants, 10% of whom had pled guilty.[4] By October 13, there were 100 guilty pleas.[2] By the second anniversary of the attack, nearly 1,000 people had been federally charged.[5] By August 2024, more than 1,400 people have been charged with federal crimes related to the attack and over 900 of them have been convicted.[6]
Empirical data, what in the actual fuck is that, eh?
That ditch pig's point of view is from the bottom of a toilet bowl.
