23 yr. old wants to begin MMA

[xinster]

With that saids, genetics is also a factor...lol...

 

[_All-State_]

I don't think you can include Bas Rutten and Randy Couture. Bas was an accomplished karate/TKD practitioner and kickboxer and Randy was a NCAA champion before transitioning into MMA.

 

[TapSD]

I don't think you can include Bas Rutten and Randy Couture. Bas was an accomplished karate/TKD practitioner and kickboxer and Randy was a NCAA champion before transitioning into MMA.

Bas was actually a MT champ in Holland

 

[CK**]

It's over. You really need to be in your early teens, or pre-teens to be any good.


Seriously though, it's no use thinking about these things. You only have one life and some things may not work out as you want it, but you can only deal. Do your best and that is all you can ask for.

 

[creedseebas]

Tell you guys what..... I'm gonna go for it and whne i make it up there i'l give a shout out to all of you, reminding you of who i am..... then when there's other guys out there with a story like mine, they'l have someone to look up to and say "hey, if that guy did it then i can too!"

i appreciate the advice of those that say go for it... an di'm gona take it!

 

[xinster]

yeah. il remember ya.

 

[krnguy03]

yea thats the attitude...

anyway whats your fight name gonna be?

seebas?

 

[eldarbong]

Ok, so i'm 23 and i have recently started training in MMA. I know there are guys out there who at younger ages than mine are already wrld champs. Does this mean that there is no hope for me to ever make it to the big time because i am starting too late in the game, or are there stories of great fighters who started late like myself?

Also, do any of you have any personal opinions about this, because seriously, this is the on ething that keeps me up sometimes, wondering if i am even doing the right thing, trying to pick this all up at 23. Is it too late in my life to become a world class fighter by the time i'm 30?

i weigh 150 lbs, 16% body fat, work out with more determination and intensity than anyone i know, and train extremely hard. I eat and supplement well, and i rest fairly good. Will my age be a factor that will keep me from ever being in PRIDE or UFC?

I don't think age matters at all. Bill "The Butcher" Mahood was 38 or 39 when he debuted in UFC, and I don't think he started training in MMA until he was like 35 or something.

 

[Justin Pressley]

i started at 21 and I expect to be doing big things with my MMA Career. 1st fight is this Sept 2nd. woot Im rdy to kick arse.

 

[Justin Pressley]

Bas Rutten started his Martial Arts career at the late age of 21, and he quickly discovered that Martial Arts was his caling. Within one and a half years he got his 1st degree black belt in Tae Kwon Do. One year later, he received a 1st degree black belt in Kyokoshin Karate. Presently, he holds a 2nd degree black belt in Tae Kwon Do, and a 5th in Kyokoshin Karate. While he was doing these two sports he also started to compete in Thai boxing. He became the Dutch champion, and fought 16 Thai boxing matches of which he won 14 by KO. In 1993 Bas was contacted by the Japanese organization Pancrase, and he fought his first fight for Pancrase on September 21, 1993. He won the fight in 43 seconds and from that moment on became one of the favorite fighters of the Japanese audience. In 1995 he won the prestigious King of Pancrase World Championship Belt in Nippon Budokan, Tokyo. He defended that title two more times successfully, and then resigned as the undefeated World Champion in order to compete in the biggest No Holds Barred event in the world, the UFC. He went undefeated in the Octagon, and became the UFC World Heavyweight Champion.in May, 1998. Bas suffered from many injuries towards the end of his long fighting career, and after winning the UFC title he felt it was the right time for him to retire as a professional fighter. He now lives in the United States and works as an actor and fight coordinator in the television and motion picture industries.

http://www.basrutten.tv/product_inf...as-seen-on-extreme-makeover&cName=mma-workout


You can anything you set your mind to.

 

[170latinobest]

fuck that shit, strength comes from the inside! u feel u got it? go get it ! im 21 as well, and feel the same way. If your in shape and feel good and healthy your half way there all you need is the technical side of the sport and some good training and ring expereince, time will take care of the rest.

 

[MMMFood]

Ok, so i'm 23 and i have recently started training in MMA. I know there are guys out there who at younger ages than mine are already wrld champs. Does this mean that there is no hope for me to ever make it to the big time because i am starting too late in the game, or are there stories of great fighters who started late like myself?

Also, do any of you have any personal opinions about this, because seriously, this is the on ething that keeps me up sometimes, wondering if i am even doing the right thing, trying to pick this all up at 23. Is it too late in my life to become a world class fighter by the time i'm 30?

i weigh 150 lbs, 16% body fat, work out with more determination and intensity than anyone i know, and train extremely hard. I eat and supplement well, and i rest fairly good. Will my age be a factor that will keep me from ever being in PRIDE or UFC?

*sigh*. you weigh 150 and have 16% body fat and you say u work out with determination and intensity than anyone you know? where the fuck do you live, at the shore of Zimbabwe?

man your logic is flawless... *sarcasm*

no its not too late to be a excellent fighter........ but you make it sound like your hoping for big dreams in short times. if your really as dedicated as you say you are and you don't have any illnesses holding you back then putting countless hours of training per week will fly by soon enough and don't worry about daily improvements!

 

[MMMFood]

I don't think age matters at all. Bill "The Butcher" Mahood was 38 or 39 when he debuted in UFC, and I don't think he started training in MMA until he was like 35 or something.

I wouldnt say it doesn't matter at all.... because obviously if you've started real young you can have a tremendous edge in experience and give you the seniority even if your younger than the opponent.. but I guess I get what your saying lol

 

[Harajuku]

*sigh*. you weigh 150 and have 16% body fat and you say u work out with determination and intensity than anyone you know? where the fuck do you live, at the shore of Zimbabwe?

man your logic is flawless... *sarcasm*

no its not too late to be a excellent fighter........ but you make it sound like your hoping for big dreams in short times. if your really as dedicated as you say you are and you don't have any illnesses holding you back then putting countless hours of training per week will fly by soon enough and don't worry about daily improvements!

Yeah the 150 pounds 16% bodyfat sends up red flags for me.
I mean how about this? Let's say national team judoka/ samboist, ADCC elite, Olympic level/division one level wrestlers and k-1 fighters have the best chance of making it pro in mma. These guys are almost a given because somebody will give them a chance.
Now the average person who has a training background(let us say at least a few years, or be damn good at what you did) that is a plus.
Great athlete, any sport, that is a plus.
BIg and strong(let's say at least 2xbodyweight in deadlift, and maybe a 15-20 pound difference between walk around weight and fight weight), that is a plus.
Young, (<20) that is a plus.
You have access to top facilities and pros, that is a plus.
None of the above, that is a minus.
Over 15% bodyfat at a light weight, that is a minus. Simply because you are at a physical disadvantage.
Anyway instead of posting here to see if you should do it. Just go do it. I am simply being honest. Because there are alot of guys who have all the advantages you do not and they might be thinking of making the leap. I am surrounded by various pros, so I see these things everyday.

 

[creedseebas]

Here is what i plan to do. Go up in weight to weigh about 160-165 and then cut dwn to a lean 150-155, with what i expect to be 9-11% body fat. And YES, i train with more determination than most other people i know. When i have trained with better atheletes i'm the guy pushing everyone to go harder, and working my butt off. But i guess i can say all i wanna say on here an dit won't make a difference for me. The difference will be the improvements i make on my technique, the hours i spend on th ematt an din the gym, the dieting an dhow well i stick to it, an dmy heart for this sport. That whole Bas Rutten thing... i wanna make history repeat itself.

I'l take these "disadvanteges" you guys say i have and use them to make my story, one of an underdog who makes it and comes out on top! I may have all these things agaisnt me an dthat's why my story will be even more amazing. I just wanna show other guys and girls out there that heart, determination, and dedication, hard work, and sacrifice do pay off. And i knwo they do. I have seen it in my parents' lives. I'l transport that to the fighting world.

Someone asked what my fghting name will be? Well Bas Rutten i sactually seBASstian isn't it? That's hwta my sensei told me. Guess what my name is!!! I'm Sebastian as well..... maybe i'll go by BAS as well..... lol.. who knows.

 

[krnguy03]

Bas would be cool.. but can you live up to that name?

 

[xinster]

Here is what i plan to do. Go up in weight to weigh about 160-165 and then cut dwn to a lean 150-155, with what i expect to be 9-11% body fat. And YES, i train with more determination than most other people i know. When i have trained with better atheletes i'm the guy pushing everyone to go harder, and working my butt off. But i guess i can say all i wanna say on here an dit won't make a difference for me. The difference will be the improvements i make on my technique, the hours i spend on th ematt an din the gym, the dieting an dhow well i stick to it, an dmy heart for this sport. That whole Bas Rutten thing... i wanna make history repeat itself.

I'l take these "disadvanteges" you guys say i have and use them to make my story, one of an underdog who makes it and comes out on top! I may have all these things agaisnt me an dthat's why my story will be even more amazing. I just wanna show other guys and girls out there that heart, determination, and dedication, hard work, and sacrifice do pay off. And i knwo they do. I have seen it in my parents' lives. I'l transport that to the fighting world.

Someone asked what my fghting name will be? Well Bas Rutten i sactually seBASstian isn't it? That's hwta my sensei told me. Guess what my name is!!! I'm Sebastian as well..... maybe i'll go by BAS as well..... lol.. who knows.

Best of luck, but if we meet, i will heelhook you into oblivion.

 

[BJJHooligan]

Age doesn't matter just train hard and keep trying. I am 27 and just got into MMA i have alot of wrestling backround but was not a division 1 wrestler i was 6'1 140lb through h/s. My body didn't fully develope until after 22. Now i am 220lbs i have been strength training pretty hard for the last few years. My additude it whatever happens happens. I have fun training and to me that is what matters most. It's wierd because through H/S everyone i wrestled was stronger then me now when i spar i am stronger then everyone i spar with.

My advice to you would be put alot of effert into strength training because 16% bodyfat at 150lbs wont cut it. Most fighters are around 10% or less. Andr you already at the lightest wieght class with 16%. i would say try to go to 170 at the least and then cut back down. Make sure you get your diet in check it is very underated. At 16% b/f your diet is not where it should be.

 

[creedseebas]

what makes it hard to gain weight is all the cardio i do, but by the same token, if i don't do the cardio, my fighting suffers so i have to do th ecardio. What i'll have to do is REALLY start eating a whole lot, WHOLE LOT, more than i already do.

i understand that by thetime i'm 30 i may not have made a big name for myself, but what i meant was, if i train hard, do you guys think that i can make a big explosion at the age of 30 and maybe last a good 5-10 years in the game at world class level.

This would give me 7 years to get there from now. That's 7 years to put on weight, 7 years to learn my jiu-jitsu, muay thai, boxing, and wrestling better, and 7 years to get amateur tourneys under my belt so to have some experience.

 

[Harajuku]

what makes it hard to gain weight is all the cardio i do, but by the same token, if i don't do the cardio, my fighting suffers so i have to do th ecardio. What i'll have to do is REALLY start eating a whole lot, WHOLE LOT, more than i already do.

i understand that by thetime i'm 30 i may not have made a big name for myself, but what i meant was, if i train hard, do you guys think that i can make a big explosion at the age of 30 and maybe last a good 5-10 years in the game at world class level.

This would give me 7 years to get there from now. That's 7 years to put on weight, 7 years to learn my jiu-jitsu, muay thai, boxing, and wrestling better, and 7 years to get amateur tourneys under my belt so to have some experience.

If you put it that way, then yes in 7 years you could be totally different. If that is the case, reduce the cardio. !50 pounds at 16% bodyfat means you have little muscle but and unreasonable amount of bodyfat for your level of activity. You do not eat well I would assume. It does not mean you should be eating alot of anything since your bodyfat level is pretty high. And you are not that young anymore. So I would suggest you look at t-nation.com. They have great writers from great stregth coaches and coaches that deal with the issues you present in regards to body composition.
Also if I were you I would move to where the best facilities are in America, so you can train with the pros.