Elections 2022 Mid-term Elections PBP

[Zazen]

I don't think any state has banned it. And I don't think there was any legal time limit with Roe v Wade. There is nothing extreme about enforcing a time limit while allowing for health exceptions. Florida was criticized by Democrats for its limit of 15 weeks, which is the average in western Europe. If Roe v Wade did indeed have a time limit, then why was Florida criticized for stipulating one?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...s-skull-seek-abortion-another-state-rcna45005

There's about a dozen states that already have a total ban or near a total ban. There are many politicians running on the ballot that want to ban it regardless of the mother's health or child rape. Doug Mastriano who is running in my state says he gets these views from his faith, Christianity. He even funds extreme groups.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/20...ment-christian-nationalist-platform-rcna40541

Then you have Boebert and MTG completely out in the open wishing they to get rid of separation of church and state.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/06/28/lauren-boebert-church-state-colorado/

 

[NickNick]

I don't see what you mean by Christian nationalism. I'm against compelled speech for pronouns and I'm the furthest thing from religious. Imposing time limits on abortion isn't Christian either. Every European nation has them. In Sweden and Norway it's 18 weeks. In Denmark it's 12 weeks. These nations aren't Christian nationalist.

This is what people have a problem with.

And these places get to operate tax free as churches.

 

[KnightTemplar]

Just got back from voting a near a number of colleges and students live in the area and they are turning out in droves. Polls show record number of college age students turning out out to vote.

Won't that benefit the Dems? Don't college students traditionally vote Democrat?

 

[cottagecheesefan]

@Halge @Fox by the Sea

just to follow up to show how incompetent (or corrupt) they are. The printers were not calibrated corred, so they were not printing with the darkness and timing of the marks, which is why it looked like a poor xerox.

But this is after having at least half of voting day have huge lines, which discourages voters.

How are the printers not calibrated properly in several different polling locations that are supposedly certified.

 

[BFoe]

My point is that weird stuff happens during elections. Dishonest stuff, from both sides. People on the left act like they are conspiracy theories when shit happens all the time. There are people in 5-6 states right now leaving ballots in a box "to be scanned later" bc machines are down. You think that is untouchable with the level of hate each side has?

I don’t think anyone denies that a poll worker can be an asshole, or that people make mistakes or whatever. I act like the accusations the right made in 2020 are a conspiracy theory because they absolutely are. It’s complete nonsense and damn near impossible.
It’s hard to defend against sporadic bad actors though, which is what you’re talking about. If procedures are followed, then yes—ballots waiting to be scanned in later should be just fine. But could se loony ass left winger or right winger trash those ballots if procedures are NOT followed and they’re left totally unattended? I suppose, although I absolutely believe it would be caught and rectified.

Do you not find it odd that we can catch some rando voting twice, or some person who is a terrible poll worker at one little polling location in the whole country, but no one can prove the absolutely massive, multi-state, multi-county operation that would be needed to even attempt what people like Dinesh D’Souza claim happened? It’s beyond preposterous.

 

[PhitePhan]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...s-skull-seek-abortion-another-state-rcna45005

There's about a dozen states that already have a total ban or near a total ban. There are many politicians running on the ballot that want to ban it regardless of the mother's health or child rape. Doug Mastriano who is running in my state says he gets these views from his faith, Christianity. He even funds extreme groups.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/20...ment-christian-nationalist-platform-rcna40541

Then you have Boebert and MTG completely out in the open wishing they to get rid of separation of church and state.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/06/28/lauren-boebert-church-state-colorado/

Is there anything stopping these states’ citizens from electing officials who align with their views? If not, then constituents should vote them out… a judicial decree is not a substitute for the rule of law, even if you agree with the decree… agreed?

 

[cottagecheesefan]

lol, is this the new Brian Seltzer?

 

[PhitePhan]

lol, is this the new Brian Seltzer?

 

[Crawler89]

whoever wins, I just hope theres not a gigantic run off of "bullshit, cheating, fake news, tampering!" and all that nonsense.

 

[cottagecheesefan]

Lol, even MSNBC calling these elections a problem as the disenfranchise republicans. Anyone defending these swing states, known for election problems, but then try to say 2020 was OK, just please stfu in the future. This is embarassing and when democrats control the elections in these areas and clearly disenfranchising voters on election day during a historic election is so obviously disgusting.

Talk about facism. Anyone who who suggest otherwise in anyway is an idiot. Simple as

 

[KnightTemplar]

whoever wins, I just hope theres not a gigantic run off of "bullshit, cheating, fake news, tampering!" and all that nonsense.

 

[Bojka]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...s-skull-seek-abortion-another-state-rcna45005

There's about a dozen states that already have a total ban or near a total ban. There are many politicians running on the ballot that want to ban it regardless of the mother's health or child rape. Doug Mastriano who is running in my state says he gets these views from his faith, Christianity. He even funds extreme groups.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/20...ment-christian-nationalist-platform-rcna40541

Then you have Boebert and MTG completely out in the open wishing they to get rid of separation of church and state.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/06/28/lauren-boebert-church-state-colorado/

I don't really care about MTG. There are nut job extremists on the left as well who I wouldn't use to represent Democrats in general.

I looked into states that completely ban abortion and I actually agree that's whacko. It seems, due to the Roe v Wade ruling in 1973, that certain state laws were never modernized. But striking down Roe v Wade was a necessary step in order to set sensible time limits, which, again, every sophisticated modern nation has. So, in some states, it seems like a matter of taking some steps backward in order to take more steps forward. It will be up to the people of those states to now call for sensible time limits.

 

[Zazen]

Is there anything stopping these states’ citizens from electing officials who align with their views? If not, then constituents should vote them out… a judicial decree is not a substitute for the rule of law, even if you agree with the decree… agreed?

I think there was a major upset recently in a red state because of this but can’t remember where. Sure I think it will get to that point in the future. A lot of people vote a certain until it affects them personally

 

[Zazen]

I don't really care about MTG. There are nut job extremists on the left as well who I wouldn't use to represent Democrats in general.

I looked into states that completely ban abortion and I actually agree that's whacko. It seems, due to the Roe v Wade ruling in 1973, that certain state laws were never modernized. But striking down Roe v Wade was a necessary step in order to set sensible time limits, which, again, every sophisticated modern nation has. So, in some states, it seems like a case of taking some steps backward in order to take more steps forward. It will be up to the people of the states to now call for sensible time limits.

You’re incredibly optimistic. I envy that. I feel we are currently taking a few steps back follow by huge leaps backwards. Why would they gain more power and then decide to be more progressive? Seems strange to me but hopefully you’re right and I’m wrong

 

[Lead]

Lol, even MSNBC calling these elections a problem as the disenfranchise republicans. Anyone defending these swing states, known for election problems, but then try to say 2020 was OK, just please stfu in the future. This is embarassing and when democrats control the elections in these areas and clearly disenfranchising voters on election day during a historic election is so obviously disgusting.

Talk about facism. Anyone who who suggest otherwise in anyway is an idiot. Simple as

You are taking situations of mismanagement and incompetence and trying to tie it to your outlandish and unproven claims of material fraud in 2020. No, this isn’t the same thing and no, it doesn’t validate any of the theories you pushed for that election.

A PA county didn’t have paper in 2022 does not equal 80,000 fraudulent or tossed PA votes happening in 2020.

 

[Halge]

@Halge @Fox by the Sea

just to follow up to show how incompetent (or corrupt) they are. The printers were not calibrated corred, so they were not printing with the darkness and timing of the marks, which is why it looked like a poor xerox.

But this is after having at least half of voting day have huge lines, which discourages voters.

How are the printers not calibrated properly in several different polling locations that are supposedly certified.

I'm sorry - this is like something out of Parks & Rec.

 

[Cajun]

It will boil down to abortion vs inflation imo

 

[Rational Poster]

I don't really care about MTG. There are nut job extremists on the left as well who I wouldn't use to represent Democrats in general.

I looked into states that completely ban abortion and I actually agree that's whacko. It seems, due to the Roe v Wade ruling in 1973, that certain state laws were never modernized. But striking down Roe v Wade was a necessary step in order to set sensible time limits, which, again, every sophisticated modern nation has. So, in some states, it seems like a matter of taking some steps backward in order to take more steps forward. It will be up to the people of those states to now call for sensible time limits.

"Candidates who have challenged or refused to accept Joe Biden’s victory — 51 percent of the 569 analyzed by The Washington Post — are running in every region of the country and in nearly every state. Republican voters in two states nominated election deniers in all federal and statewide races The Post examined.


Although some are running in heavily Democratic areas and are expected to lose, most of the election deniers nominated are likely to win: Of the nearly 300 on the ballot, 171 are running for safely Republican seats. Another 48 will appear on the ballot in tightly contested races."

Election denial is literally the GOPs platform this election.

 

[Bojka]

On the sites that still allow betting, odds for Republicans seem to be shortening.

 

[cottagecheesefan]

You are taking situations of mismanagement and incompetence and trying to tie it to your outlandish and unproven claims of material fraud in 2020. No, this isn’t the same thing and no, it doesn’t validate any of the theories you pushed for that election.

A PA county didn’t have paper in 2022 does not equal 80,000 fraudulent or tossed votes happening in 2020.

Just like in AZ, it shows a completely incompetent (and/or corrupt) oversight of elections. Regardless of how you want to go with that is your own opinion. God bless you either way and as I said, I will accept any result