Elections 2022 Mid-term Elections PBP

[NickNick]

Agreed. It's way too early to call it for either side. And given the number of issues already being reported, it could take a very long time to process all the votes.

It was always going to take a long time, just like in 2020. Here in PA they couldn't start counting mail in ballots until today, with a lot of counties not starting to count them until after day of voting. This will stretch into the end of the week unless one side is clearly winning.

 

[MMAisGod]

As long as they don’t close down my business and force me to take an experimental injection, I’ll be happy.



It’s a pretty low bar, I’ll admit, but it was set by Dems, so watcha gonna do?

Super duper anecdotal, but I've said it many times my sister is a traveling nurse. She's been a Democrat voter since her first vote, and she's not "far left" or anything radical just always preferred the policies of the party and is registered. After they went all in with the Covid shot mandate stuff and forcing on healthcare workers she has flipped and voted Republican this year down the party line. Pretty much this one singular issue made her vote Republican for the first time, because she was so strongly against the receiving the Covid shot and despised people trying to force her to get it or lose her job. Said she would never vote for Biden again if ran because of it and if Trump ran she would just not vote. It's something mind-blowing to me given how strong she's held voting Democrat all these years.

Just an example of why everyone has to be careful with these issues they force on us. I'm sure there's an equally anecdotal example of a woman never voting Republican again over abortion. I know things generally flip back and forth, but it makes me wonder how many people have made such a jump on one-issue items, and if the experts smarter than us calculate all these things in their planning.

Very true, especially with trajectory of 2024. If Desantis truly does win with over 55%, winning over these counties, I think that could sway even me to maybe want Desantis in 2024. Since that shows great ability to win over independents, which I think Trump is actually good with, but all his baggage turns off too many women and beta males (not minorities).

Trump took a swipe at Desantis at his rally in PA on Saturday, than praised him at the Miami rally on Sunday, then confirmed he voted for him today, only to then say he would crush Ron in a primary. Even as a Trumper, he needs to just stop for a few days lol

SPeaking of FL though, since the the GOP is now thinking maybe as much as 55 seats, Rick Scott could challenge Mitch. FL winning all over the place.

For real, even Hillsborough it's like hmm, but I really think at least in central Florida it would be groundbreaking. Pinellas looks much more, changed, than years past, so if they are trending away from blue in the votes that would be insane. Other counties would be even icing on the cake so to speak. One of the best things about Florida is there are so many independents and they typically care about issues and less about nonsense even though media portrays otherwise.

I dunno about Mitch though lol that dude is legendary. He has a death grip on the party, I don't think he's going anywhere until he's ready to.

 

[Zazen]

I don't see what you mean by Christian nationalism. I'm against compelled speech for pronouns and I'm the furthest thing from religious. Imposing term limits on abortion isn't Christian either. Every European nation has them. In Sweden and Norway it's 18 weeks. In Denmark it's 12 weeks. These nations aren't Christian nationalist.

Where are you from? The MAGA types have been getting more bold about their desires. They don't even hide it anymore. Ted Cruz said it was a mistake to not leave gay marriage to states. Supreme Court is acting more partisan than ever and crazy people like Boebert and MTG are openly claiming that the founding fathers wanted the church to rule the country. They want a full national abortion ban. Roe vs Wade was already the moderate choice. 95-99% of abortions were done fairly early on in a pregnancy. In rare cases they were done to save a mother's life or prevent a child from living an awful life if the child was diagnosed with a rare disease or deformity.

 

[Topguntrophey]

Right, that's the disgrace, not the surge of voting machine issues in critical districts and promises of hoards of late-counted mail-in ballots when there is no pandemic justification to support it...

Surge and Hoards eh? Can't wait for the proof and how it effects what ever side.

 

[Zazen]

One step at a time. We can do better than most republicans, but whatever they are they're better than the radical left. I hope any victory tonight, fingers crossed, paves the way to getting rid of the communism-with-a-smile that's being planned by the internationalists and the WEF.

Who is a communist that currently has power within the government? I'm not talking about social democrats that are for a more regulated form of capitalism but full on communism. Name five people in the government who identify as such. History also shows democrats have done better with the economy.

 

[PhitePhan]

Super duper anecdotal, but I've said it many times my sister is a traveling nurse. She's been a Democrat voter since her first vote, and she's not "far left" or anything radical just always preferred the policies of the party and is registered. After they went all in with the Covid shot mandate stuff and forcing on healthcare workers she has flipped and voted Republican this year down the party line. Pretty much this one singular issue made her vote Republican for the first time, because she was so strongly against the receiving the Covid shot and despised people trying to force her to get it or lose her job. Said she would never vote for Biden again if ran because of it and if Trump ran she would just not vote instructions of voting for her party again. It's something mind-blowing to me given how strong she's held voting Democrat all these years.

Just an example of why everyone has to be careful with these issues they force on us. I'm sure there's an equally anecdotal example of a woman never voting Republican again over abortion. I know things generally flip back and forth, but it makes me wonder how many people have made such a jump on one-issue items, and if the experts smarter than us calculate all these things in their planning.



For real, even Hillsborough it's like hmm, but I really think at least in central Florida it would be groundbreaking. Pinellas looks much more, changed, than years past, so if they are trending away from blue in the votes that would be insane. Other counties would be even icing on the cake so to speak. One of the best things about Florida is there are so many independents and they typically care about issues and less about nonsense even though media portrays otherwise.

I dunno about Mitch though lol that dude is legendary. He has a death grip on the party, I don't think he's going anywhere until he's ready to.

Yeah, I’m actually not a Republican voter (generally have viewed both sides as shitty and have been apathetic) but I’ll vote in a second for Republican over Democrat, and I can’t imagine ever voting Dem unless they come out denouncing what they did with mandates and shutdowns.

 

[Bojka]

Where are you from? The MAGA types have been getting more bold about their desires. They don't even hide it anymore. Ted Cruz said it was a mistake to not leave gay marriage to states. Supreme Court is acting more partisan than ever and crazy people like Boebert and MTG are openly claiming that the founding fathers wanted the church to rule the country. They want a full national abortion ban. Roe vs Wade was already the moderate choice. 95-99% of abortions were done fairly early on in a pregnancy. In rare cases they were done to save a mother's life or prevent a child from living an awful life if the child was diagnosed with a rare disease or deformity.

If the vast majority of abortions are performed early, then what's the big deal with establishing a time limit? What you should be advocating for is a time limit with the option to apply for an exception for health purposes, which is what every sophisticated modern nation has had... besides the US.

 

[Zazen]

Probably nothing. But hopefully they just stop issues from furthering.

regardless I dont feel too confident in a republican win

You mean tonight or 2024? Republicans are heavily favored to win tonight. What makes you uncertain? Roe vs Wade and SCOTUS issues? I think the others are right in saying that people vote on the economic issues we are facing and just want the others out even if the ones they vote for might not fix it.

 

[Super_Nintendo]

Who is a communist that currently has power within the government? I'm not talking about social democrats that are for a more regulated form of capitalism but full on communism. Name five people in the government who identify as such. History also shows democrats have done better with the economy.

Build Back Better and the Great Reset. They have plans and it's not just a singular country. I won't veer this into a WEF thread so let's just call it off.

 

[nostradumbass]

So if/when republicans take control of the house and senate, what are they going to do to fix the problems they ran on (inflation, crime, gas prices)?

Free up oil production and enforce laws? That wasn't very difficult.

 

[Zazen]

I don’t even know how to respond.

How does a more Christian Supreme Court lead to removing minorities’ rights? Which rights are you worried about?

As for trading short term for long term, it’s the Dems who circumvented established laws (even to the point of forcing an experimental injection) and wrecked the country (ex. school closures and masking kids, forcing people out of their jobs, shuttering small business in favor of conglomerates) and it’s their policies that will be felt for years to come…

I guess mostly just LGBT rights, they seem to be on the chopping block under a Republican leadership. The rhetoric surrounding them has gotten very vicious recently and like I mentioned previously about Ted Cruz and others saying it was a mistake to allow gay marriage federally and should be up to states. Imo, it is unethical to leave it up to the states. People have already created lives there.

 

[Zazen]

Build Back Better and the Great Reset. They have plans and it's not just a singular country. I won't veer this into a WEF thread so let's just call it off.

So nothing. Gotcha

 

[Zazen]

Yeah, I’m actually not a Republican voter (generally have viewed both sides as shitty and have been apathetic) but I’ll vote in a second for Republican over Democrat, and I can’t imagine ever voting Dem unless they come out denouncing what they did with mandates and shutdowns.

I'm a bit confused. We had so many lockdowns under Trump when he was president and even then they were very lax compared to most other countries. In China, they are literally taking children away from parents. I don't think you realize how easy we had it versus the rest of the world.

 

[Super_Nintendo]

So nothing. Gotcha

PM

 

[Zazen]

If the vast majority of abortions are performed early, then what's the big deal with establishing a time limit? What you should be advocating for is a time limit with the option to apply for an exception for health purposes, which is what every sophisticated modern nation has had... besides the US.

That's my point , we had that. The extreme position is to fully ban it. Roe vs Wade already had limitations except for certain rare scenarios. That extreme position is rooted in Christianity or at least their twisted interpretation of it.

 

[NickNick]

Free up oil production and enforce laws? That wasn't very difficult.

Cool, I look forward to the cheaper gas and the newly elected officials hitting the streets and taking on crime batman style.

 

[Bojka]

That's my point , we had that. The extreme position is to fully ban it. Roe vs Wade already had limitations except for certain rare scenarios.

I don't think any state has completely banned it. And I don't think there was any legal time limit with Roe v Wade. There is nothing extreme about enforcing a time limit while allowing for health exceptions. Florida was criticized by Democrats for its limit of 15 weeks, which is the average in western Europe. If Roe v Wade did indeed have a time limit, then why was Florida criticized for setting one?

 

[KnightTemplar]

I thought this was a really solid piece by Ana Kasparian:

https://www.newsweek.com/my-fellow-progressives-we-need-stop-gaslighting-crime-opinion-1757400

I’m glad she can acknowledge a problem and not be tone deaf. This is the kind of stuff that is turning people off from the Dems. They’ve become the party of elitists.

I only know Kasparian from TYT, and I've only watched that a couple of times. So I was both surprised and impressed by that piece. She's a self-avowed Liberal and Progressive, but she pulls no punches against her own side

 

[PEB]

Just got back from voting a near a number of colleges and students live in the area and they are turning out in droves. Polls show record number of college age students turning out out to vote.

 

[cottagecheesefan]

God bless his leadership