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Elections 2022 Mid-term Elections PBP

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I clarified the very next post and said it differs widely by state already.

Than why did you quote me posting about special circumstances that require ID in Massachusetts? That wasn’t an attempt to defend your post , lol? Just a random tidbit of information for everyone to enjoy?
 
Than why did you quote me posting about special circumstances that require ID in Massachusetts? That wasn’t an attempt to defend your post , lol? Just a random tidbit of information for everyone to enjoy?

Clarifying the incorrect statement you made.

There are multiple scenarios in your state that would have them ask for ID at the polls including if the poll worker just feels like it.
 
There are special circumstances that may require it, but for a regular voter you go into the station, say a name and an address, the poll worker looks for it on their sheet, if it’s there they check it off and hand you a ballot.

No ID or proof of residence required.

Same for me. Every time.
 
No you don’t

I just had to give them my name this morning and they handed me a ballot.

Illinois.

Illinois does not require voters to present identification while voting, in most cases. First-time voters who registered by mail and did not submit their driver’s license number, state ID number, last four digits of their social security number, or other form of ID are required to present identification showing their name and address before voting

Because you're (supposed) to do that when you register in IL and if you don't for whatever reason, then it's required at the polls.
 
Illinois does not require voters to present identification while voting, in most cases. First-time voters who registered by mail and did not submit their driver’s license number, state ID number, last four digits of their social security number, or other form of ID are required to present identification showing their name and address before voting

Because you're (supposed) to do that when you register in IL and if you don't for whatever reason, then it's required at the polls.

Yeah. And any person who beat me to the poll and say they were Hockeybjj could have voted for me this morning, since I already registered years ago.

It’s completely bizarre. Basically honor system that you are who you say you are to vote in Illinois.
 
Yeah. And any person who beat me to the poll and say they were Hockeybjj could have voted for me this morning, since I already registered years ago.

It’s completely bizarre. Basically honor system that you are who you say you are to vote in Illinois.

That would require quite a lot of effort to steal one vote... and it would be immediately caught when you show up to the poll and dispute it since the system can easily catch duplicate votes.
 
That would require quite a lot of effort to steal one vote... and it would be immediately caught when you show up to the poll and dispute it since the system can easily catch duplicate votes.

How would it be quite a lot of effort? Vote for a person on the registry you know isn’t likely to vote. Even if that person does show up, they just won’t hand them a ballot as it’s already been crossed off.

Sure probably raise some questions, but how would it be caught since videotaping a person voting is illegal? So trying to find the original voter of the thousands who went through that location earlier that day would be impossible.

Voter ID and require every state to give out free photo ID would be a much simpler system.
 
Any results or turnout trends starting to come in?
 
How would it be quite a lot of effort? Vote for a person on the registry you know isn’t likely to vote. Even if that person does show up, they just won’t hand them a ballot as it’s already been crossed off.

Sure probably raise some questions, but how would it be caught since videotaping a person voting is illegal? So trying to find the original voter of the thousands who went through that location earlier that day would be impossible.

Inactive voters are generally questioned for ID. A poll worker isn't going to let you into the booth till they check to see if you've voted or not.

The effort would be knowing that you exist, are registered, and are also an active voter yet also not going to vote in the election. Or it's just entirely chance that the person trying to steal ONE VOTE is voting for someone inactive and they don't get questioned when they try to. Whoever is doing this to steal one vote also needs to travel to your specific polling place to do it.

Duplicate votes are easily caught.
 
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I don’t think it’s right to cast an unfavorable light on our elections integrity by saying Twitter or whatever social media platform encouraged a person to vote a certain way. See some of my posts after that one. Like you said, people can bitch all they want about x said y on Twitter or wherever but none of that has led me to think, “our elections aren’t fair cause Twitter is interfering”. That’s garbage and even if I buy into the argument that social media as a whole can have a large impact on a sizeable portion of the voting public, I would then strongly disagree that any one figure is able to steer that control a specific direct that would be material enough to think we should start telling Elon or others they can’t state their opinions on politics.

My beef with his post is he’s undermining the results for something that is perfectly normal in a free society and is only focusing on the actor he doesn’t like because he’s endorsing the party he doesn’t like.
I’m certainly not saying that Elon Musk can’t tweet his opinion about politics.
Comparing a known endorsement—whether that be Obama or Trump endorsing someone, or a properly labeled editorial in a newspaper, to biased control of the overall flow of information is a false equivalency. Endorsements aren’t the issue. In fact, a person giving a political opinion isn’t my issue with this.

I could always read an editorial in a newspaper, but it was clearly labeled as such, and elsewhere in the paper I could expect to actually read the news, which had certain standards of journalistic integrity. This is my main concern: the lack of standards for journalism in general, and like you said, this is just as relevant with MSNBC as it is with FOX (for example). This becomes extremely problematic if “news” sources are allowed to publish complete horseshit, and then social media companies use algorithms which favor it.

A person stating their political opinion is fine—although if we are talking about public figures, media outlets, etc., it should probably be clearly labeled as such. As a private company, if Twitter or FB or whomever used an algorithm which somehow favors one ideology over another, I suppose that’s their right. What is more troubling is that the OANs, Dinesh D’Souza’s, Tim Pools, etc are able to publish absolute dogshit as news, and then massive social media companies could potentially favor the spread of one flavor of dogshit over another flavor (so to speak).

I wouldn’t call doing such a thing “rigging an election,” but it certainly an attempt to stack the deck by shaping the political views of people in extremely false and misleading ways. It’s hard to call it fair. When we’re talking about the spread of straight misinformation planted by a foreign power, that’s even more problematic.
 
Inactive voters are generally questioned for ID. A poll worker isn't going to let you into the booth till they check to see if you've voted or not.

The effort would be knowing that you exist, are registered, and are also an active voter yet also not going to vote in the election. Or it's just entirely chance that the person trying to steal ONE VOTE is voting for someone inactive and they don't get questioned when they try to.

Duplicate votes are easily caught.

Not true again. Quit making things up. Might be true for some states, but not the lax liberal ones we have issues with.

ID can only be asked to be shown in Illinois if first time voting in federal election, vote by mail and didn’t put down drivers license number, or if mail has been returned at your address.

Amount of time since you last voted is not a reason election officials can ask to see your ID.
 
There are special circumstances that may require it, but for a regular voter you go into the station, say a name and an address, the poll worker looks for it on their sheet, if it’s there they check it off and hand you a ballot.

No ID or proof of residence required.

In FL, I had to show driver's license and sign a pad. Not actually sure what other forms of ID they would accept.. They ID does need a signature, cause they checked the ID's signature vs what I signed and I saw them check it.

Also, this is why they want these problems on game day.

 
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