Elections 2016 Presidential Election General Discussion

What percentage of the vote will third party candidates receive in total?

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somervillecr said:
Sure, man. Vote for Gary Johnson.

It's literally throwing your vote away, but whatever.
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You didn't understand what I said. Hillary is winning NY regardless of how I vote.
And I wouldn't call Donald "far from perfect" he's the embodiment of everything I dislike about the present day Republican platform.
 
Both candidates seem like idiots and incompetents. The difference being that Hillary is more articulate and careful with what she says.

I sort of doubt I'll be participating in this election. I can't, in good conscience, cast a vote for either of these candidates.
 
Johnson has no backbone and isn't really a libertarian.

Trump and Clinton are both horrible choices - can't believe a word out of either's mouth and while Donald seems incompetent and lacks the domestic, foreign and geopolitical knowledge it would take to be President, Hillary has some legitimate baggage following her everywhere she goes and just oozes "corruption".

I don't see how anyone could vote for anyone this election cycle with a real smile on their face. Either abstain completely or close your eyes and pick one.
 
mixmastermo said:
Trump is a bigot, loud mouth, ego centric, fact denying, selfish, and manipulative narcissist, but if you have been paying attention to the Republican platform for the past 20 years, we should have all seen this coming.
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Perhaps, and especially due to that inflated ego you can be sure he does everything in his power to become the president who made America great again in the history books of the future.

The choice is easy: do you want to live in a globalist hellhole or the greatest country in the world? The answer doesn't require that you love or even like the candidate of your choice. It's all dependent on what kind of country you to live in and leave for your posterity.
 
somervillecr said:
Sure, man. Vote for Gary Johnson.

It's literally throwing your vote away, but whatever.
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Unfortunately, this is true. All the independent candidate does is syphon voters away from one of the other candidates. Until the media decides to give equal time to every candidate, that's just how it will be.
 
mixmastermo said:
You didn't understand what I said. Hillary is winning NY regardless of how I vote.
And I wouldn't call Donald "far from perfect" he's the embodiment of everything I dislike about the present day Republican platform.
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Could you elaborate?
 
Thurisaz said:
Perhaps, and especially due to that inflated ego you can be sure he does everything in his power to become the president who made America great again in the history books of the future.

The choice is easy: do you want to live in a globalist hellhole or the greatest country in the world? The answer doesn't require that you love or even like the candidate of your choice. It's all dependent on what kind of country you to live in and leave for your posterity.
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Your reasoning is horribly flawed for one simple reason. Trump incites violence and creates divisions within the American population itself. Yesterday I watched a montage of him provoking people to get violent with protesters at his rallies.

This is how he plans to make America great again?
 
The Diplomat said:
Johnson has no backbone and isn't really a libertarian.

Trump and Clinton are both horrible choices - can't believe a word out of either's mouth and while Donald seems incompetent and lacks the domestic, foreign and geopolitical knowledge it would take to be President, Hillary has some legitimate baggage following her everywhere she goes and just oozes "corruption".

I don't see how anyone could vote for anyone this election cycle with a real smile on their face. Either abstain completely or close your eyes and pick one.
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Given the choices...its Trump easily.
 
Trump on childcare


"You know, it's not expensive for a company to do it. You need one person or two people, and you need some blocks, and you need some swings and some toys," Trump said. "It's not an expensive thing, and I do it all over. And I get great people because of it. Because it's a problem with a lot of other companies."

Trump pointed specifically to two programs: "They call 'em Trump Kids. Another one calls it Trumpeteers, if you can believe it. I have 'em. I actually have 'em, because I have a lot of different businesses."

Trump went on to describe "a room that's a quarter of the size of this. And they have all sorts of — you know, it's beautiful — they have a lot of children there, and we take care of them. And the parent when they leave the job — usually in my case it's clubs or hotels — when they leave the job, they pick up their child and their child is totally safe."

"They even come in during the day during lunch to see their child. It really works out well," he said.

But the two programs Trump cited — "Trump Kids" and "Trumpeteers" — are programs catering to patrons of Trump's hotels and golf club. They are not for Trump's employees, according to staff at Trump's hotels and clubs across the country.

"Trump Kids" is described on the Trump Hotel Collection website as "a special travel program designed to help make your next family vacation a big hit." Its offerings include "kid-friendly amenities like kiddie cocktails, coloring books and no-tear bath amenities."

"The Trumpeteer Program" is described on the website of Trump National Golf Club in Charlotte, North Carolina, as "a program created specifically for our youngest members, ages three to twelve, which offers daily and evening child care, monthly newsletters and weekly events!"

When asked about on-site child care, employees at Trump's hotels and clubs across the country expressed confusion and explained the two programs are for guests and members only.
 
TheComebackKid said:
Could you elaborate?
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I'm all about personal responsibility and I support being conservative with spending.

Unfortunately Trump happens to deny science, place the blame on specific groups for the countrys problems, and is incredibly selfish. Those are things I could never support.
 
Gervinho said:
Trump on childcare


"You know, it's not expensive for a company to do it. You need one person or two people, and you need some blocks, and you need some swings and some toys," Trump said. "It's not an expensive thing, and I do it all over. And I get great people because of it. Because it's a problem with a lot of other companies."

Trump pointed specifically to two programs: "They call 'em Trump Kids. Another one calls it Trumpeteers, if you can believe it. I have 'em. I actually have 'em, because I have a lot of different businesses."

Trump went on to describe "a room that's a quarter of the size of this. And they have all sorts of — you know, it's beautiful — they have a lot of children there, and we take care of them. And the parent when they leave the job — usually in my case it's clubs or hotels — when they leave the job, they pick up their child and their child is totally safe."

"They even come in during the day during lunch to see their child. It really works out well," he said.

But the two programs Trump cited — "Trump Kids" and "Trumpeteers" — are programs catering to patrons of Trump's hotels and golf club. They are not for Trump's employees, according to staff at Trump's hotels and clubs across the country.

"Trump Kids" is described on the Trump Hotel Collection website as "a special travel program designed to help make your next family vacation a big hit." Its offerings include "kid-friendly amenities like kiddie cocktails, coloring books and no-tear bath amenities."

"The Trumpeteer Program" is described on the website of Trump National Golf Club in Charlotte, North Carolina, as "a program created specifically for our youngest members, ages three to twelve, which offers daily and evening child care, monthly newsletters and weekly events!"

When asked about on-site child care, employees at Trump's hotels and clubs across the country expressed confusion and explained the two programs are for guests and members only.
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Hillary on Comey:

"He said I told the truth"
 
mixmastermo said:
I'm all about personal responsibility and I support being conservative with spending.

Unfortunately Trump happens to deny science, place the blame on specific groups for the countrys problems, and is incredibly selfish. Those are things I could never support.
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OK, thanks for answering
 
PolishHeadlock said:
I honestly put more blame on the parties for letting this happen.

The GOP spent 8 years whipping thesee people into an anti Obama fever pitch until they lost control of it.

The Dem party isn't nearly as guilty but they've obviously done a bad job at getting a message to older blue collar whites who are starting to feel disenfranchised
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Well the white blue collar working class is republican, not dem. Again, republicans have gotten their vote for years, but they don't actually do anything to help them, so your left with a constituency not willing to jump ship to the other party because it goes against everything they believe, but at the same time lashing out to get the most non normal republican. Republican brought all of this upon themselves.
Blackened said:
Pretty much this. I honestly believe we'd fare much better.

It'd be a land of women's studies majors vs a land of engineers. Who would fare better? Sure they out number us, but they aren't shit without us.
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Engineer checking in for the dems. Pretty sure one of trumps worst demographics are college educated people.
 
Gervinho said:
Thats the thing, she is a liar, but he lies so much more about everything. Trump is the worst type of liar. He lies about minor things no one even asks him about
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Lying about minor things vs lying about very serious crimes...I dunno...
 
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