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Elections 2016 Presidential Election General Discussion v3

Would you rather have a prior 2012 election candidate this year?


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Most Mexicans can easily get a visa, that wall will be nice and all to see once im crossing the border.

And since you have a visa, and want to keep it, you'll be seeing that nice wall again on the way back to Mexico upon your return.
 
If your visa is revoked, you can't get back in without a grappling hook.

And if a meteor hits earth we will all die.
And if i marry Scarlett Johansson i wont need a visa anymore.
etc etc.

Lots of ifs.
 
That kind of stupidity is the reason why Trump managed to beat his republican rivals.

Most Mexicans can easily get a visa, that wall will be nice and all to see once im crossing the border.

Lol I wasn't saying he made a legit point. He just made a funny, people need to take the time to have a laugh now and then.
 
So you support drones now?

Classic neoliberal, the only way you can think of to settle an issue is violence.

Any actual examples of this? No. The way this goes isn't I say X and you interpret X. .

So what is your opinion of the sanctions that killed 500,000 children in Iraq? Do you condemn them?
 
Lol I wasn't saying he made a legit point. He just made a funny, people need to take the time to have a laugh now and then.

Well this year we went from we may actually have a true people's politician as leader of the free world to the possibility of a Trump presidency.

To a certain point its kinda funny, like the movie idiocracy was funny.
 
Classic neoliberal, the only way you can think of to settle an issue is violence.

LOL! What is your proposed solution for that time?

So what is your opinion of the sanctions that killed 500,000 children in Iraq? Do you condemn them?

I don't know enough about the issue or whether your factual assertions are true, etc. It's not something that's ever come up to me except when you asserted that I supported them and I corrected the record, and then you kept repeating the assertion.
 
LOL! What is your proposed solution for that time?

That time? You mean Iraq? I thought that tangent was about Obamas's drones.

For Iraq: as I've stated before, Iraq was already in shambles due to the Iran-Iraq War, which is the main reason why they invaded Kuwait in the first place.

Iraq invaded Kuwait. 5,000 Kuwaities died in the invasion.

The US, along with the coalition..., pushed Iraq's shit in even deeper (in about a month). Iraq fled with its tail between its leg. They were ruined.

THEN we strapped on a near absolute embargo.

The more appropriate reponse would have been to work with Iraq, Saddam was an ally of ours before he scared the Saudies,and/or help those countries defend themselves from any future attacks.


As for drone strikes: the Iraq war was bogus, the invasion of Afghanistan was a huge mistake (assuming the reason was the War on Terror"). We lack the necessary intelligence to conduct a meaningful op against an ideology dispersed throughout the ME. The thing to have done there is work with the leadership in those countries providing support while we enhance our intelligence operations and secure our borders.



I don't know enough about the issue or whether your factual assertions are true, etc. It's not something that's ever come up to me except when you asserted that I supported them and I corrected the record, and then you kept repeating the assertion.

So you don't have opinion on 500,000 children being killed? Last time we had this conversation your reaponse was "what if Iraq attacked", as if to suggest the death of another 5000 Kuwaities was more egregious than the death of 500,000 children.
 
I don't think I'll be casting an overseas ballot for this one. I don't like either, or Stein and sure as hell not Johnson. But I have thought of voting for Trump out of spite.

I dismiss Trump, I despise Hillary. I think Trump's stupidity and bullshit could be neutralised due to his lack of support from both parties and low cunning whereas Hillary is intelligent, dishonest and well connected and would have a corrosive effect on both the DNC and various departments, especially foreign affairs. Imo the worst you're going to get is him making grand claims and being unable to fund dumb projects due to congress not backing him and him having a temper tantrum through the press afterwards. With his lack of knowledge in most fields, hopefully he'll surround himself with competent advisors who he will rely on, like most successful businessmen.
 
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