Elections 2016 Presidential Election General Discussion v2

[HereticBD]

I think once she shows she is fine and it was just a minor temporary health issue things will correct themselves.

I doubt many but the hardcore lefties will ever believe that. Even a good portion of the left don't buy this "pneumonia" cover.

Even if it is pneumonia, it'll take one cough caused by anything, to get people questioning her health again. It's not going away.

 

[Der Eisbär]

I pulled up links because you were too lazy to do the research yourself. All the information is out there, you were just trying to virtue signal in vain.

After asking that question multiple times, no one had an answer for me. I wasn't trying to learn about Trump's positions. How do you not get that? I was trying to get Trump supporters to tell me what he stands for/what he represents. No one has any answer. They just know he's a strong 'daddy' archtype that will take care of them and 'make America great again'. The cuckservatives candidate.

 

[Octavian]

Our politicians got us $23,000,000,000,000 in debt. I'm ready to try something else. It's clear that Trump is either going to solve the problems, or completely fuck everything up to a point where the problems finally have to be solved. Either way, the problems get solved.

Politicians bring, at best, kicking the can to problems. Trump, whether intentionally or unintentionally, whether creatively or destructively, brings solutions.

I have to reply to this more later but in short, you can complain a bit about the debt but it's not as big of an issue as pundits make it out to be. The rate at which it grows relative to GDP is much more important. As for the whole "let's just let a monkey wreck car so we can buy a new one" analogy goes.... good god man

 

[superpunch]

I have to reply to this more later but in short, you can complain a bit about the debt but it's not as big of an issue as pundits make it out to be. The rate at which it grows relative to GDP is much more important. As for the whole "let's just let a monkey wreck car so we can buy a new one" analogy goes.... good god man

That's the exact thought process of a huge and growing part of America. Americans disrespect the establishment that much.

 

[in the]

That's unfortunate. I'm sorry you find yourself in such poor health.

Yeah I'm constantly passing out and waking up with one shoe on in black vans.

 

[Der Eisbär]

Yeah I'm constantly passing out and waking up with one shoe on in black vans.

lol

 

[in the]

After asking that question multiple times, no one had an answer for me. I wasn't trying to learn about Trump's positions. How do you not get that? I was trying to get Trump supporters to tell me what he stands for/what he represents. No one has any answer. They just know he's a strong 'daddy' archtype that will take care of them and 'make America great again'. The cuckservatives candidate.

Not really.

I'm very reticent to even engage because every time I start to answer this question, the person on the other end is never satisfied and seeks to turn a simple answer into a quibbling war of attrition. It gets very old after awhile. I know I'm not the only Trump supporter who feels that way. We'd rather ignore the question than to give an answer in good faith and then have someone endlessly parse and quibble it. That's not even mentioning the retarded "racist/sexist/homophobic/xenophobic/transphobic/otherkinphobic/Islamophobic" accusations.

I support Trump due to his policy on trade (that, and he's not the bought candidate - how anyone can say Citizens United is meaningful to them, then turn around and support Hillary, the most bought and paid for candidate ever, is beyond my understanding). That's me, that's a good amount of people, but I can't speak for everyone.

 

[Der Eisbär]

Not really.

I'm very reticent to even engage because every time I start to answer this question, the person on the other end is never satisfied and seeks to turn a simple answer into a quibbling war of attrition. It gets very old after awhile. I know I'm not the only Trump supporter who feels that way. We'd rather ignore the question than to give an answer in good faith and then have someone endlessly parse and quibble it. That's not even mentioning the retarded "racist/sexist/homophobic/xenophobic/transphobic/otherkinphobic/Islamophobic" accusations.

I support Trump due to his policy on trade (that, and he's not the bought candidate - how anyone can say Citizens United is meaningful to them, then turn around and support Hillary, the most bought and paid for candidate ever, is beyond my understanding). That's me, that's a good amount of people, but I can't speak for everyone.

See that wasn't very difficult now was it? Now why can't other trump supporters come up with a simple explanation of what he stands for?

Also lol @ saying it's retarded to call a guy bigoted/racist/sexist who insults the disabled, insults women on national tv, insults minorities on national tv. I guess the rest of the fucking world is retarded for calling a spade a spade and only the trump supporters can see how 'retarded' those remarks about him are.

 

[in the]

See that wasn't very difficult now was it? Now why can't other trump supporters come up with a simple explanation of what he stands for?

Also lol @ saying it's retarded to call a guy bigoted/racist/sexist who insults the disabled, insults women on national tv, insults minorities on national tv. I guess the rest of the fucking world is retarded for calling a spade a spade and only the trump supporters can see how 'retarded' those remarks about him are.

You did it. You did exactly what I said would happen by directly answering what was supposed to be a simple question. In the same reply, you went with the bigot card... just like I said would happen.

Now do you understand why people don't want to answer you? You just use a foot-in-the-door question to then turn around and level accusations of racism/sexism/xenophobia/etc. It's nothing more than a tactic to spin the conversation in a different direction.

That's why people don't want to engage you or anyone else asking that question.

 

[Der Eisbär]

You did it. You did exactly what I said would happen by directly answering what was supposed to be a simple question. In the same reply, you went with the bigot card... just like I said would happen.

Now do you understand why people don't want to answer you? You just use a foot-in-the-door question to then turn around and level accusations of racism/sexism/xenophobia/etc. It's nothing more than a tactic to spin the conversation in a different direction.

That's why people don't want to engage you or anyone else asking that question.

Dude, I simply replied to the fucking comment you made. YOU made a comment about 'its retarded when people call him sexist/homophobe/bigot/racist. YOU made that comment, now you're going to piss your panties and cry because I replied to it? Jesus christ.

 

[TheStruggle]

Hillary's media is doubling down on hit pieces since she's losing


https://www.washingtonpost.com/post...youre-being-oppressed/?utm_term=.1685583a43c4

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/14/opinion/donald-trumps-putin-crush.html?ref=opinion


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...p-top-table-main_taxplan-1220p:homepage/story

 

[Der Eisbär]

You did it. You did exactly what I said would happen by directly answering what was supposed to be a simple question. In the same reply, you went with the bigot card... just like I said would happen.

Now do you understand why people don't want to answer you? You just use a foot-in-the-door question to then turn around and level accusations of racism/sexism/xenophobia/etc. It's nothing more than a tactic to spin the conversation in a different direction.

That's why people don't want to engage you or anyone else asking that question.

victim complex much?

YOU are standing behind and supporting a man that mocks disabled people on national TV. YOU are standing behind a man that scapegoats minorities and makes blatantly racist statements. Own the fuck up to it instead of developing this bizarre victim complex.

 

[shamaniac]

Two chances and still blanks.

And another one

 

[in the]

Dude, I simply replied to the fucking comment you made. YOU made a comment about 'its retarded when people call him sexist/homophobe/bigot/racist. YOU made that comment, now you're going to piss your panties and cry because I replied to it? Jesus christ.

victim complex much?

YOU are standing behind and supporting a man that mocks disabled people on national TV. YOU are standing behind a man that scapegoats minorities and makes blatantly racist statements. Own the fuck up to it instead of developing this bizarre victim complex.

>does exactly as predicted
"YOU made me do this!"
"Why are you playing the victim?"

 

[TheStruggle]

Clinton: We are working to lift the country not tear it apart


*1 week after calling Trump supporters racist, sexist, homophobic, and xenophobic*

 

[TheStruggle]

Wow...Hillary is already done, what was that 10 minutes top???


"She's fine"

 

[Der Eisbär]

>does exactly as predicted
"YOU made me do this!"
"Why are you playing the victim?"

I'm very reticent to even engage because every time I start to answer this question, the person on the other end is never satisfied and seeks to turn a simple answer into a quibbling war of attrition. It gets very old after awhile. I know I'm not the only Trump supporter who feels that way. We'd rather ignore the question than to give an answer in good faith and then have someone endlessly parse and quibble it. That's not even mentioning the retarded "racist/sexist/homophobic/xenophobic/transphobic/otherkinphobic/Islamophobic" accusations.

How the fuck is that not victim complex?????? Lmfao. Cry more about how you don't want to engage in political discussion because everyone victimizes you by calling your candidate a bigot.

 

[kpt018]

She's been coughing and hacking for a very long time now.

She tried to convince everyone that she was perfectly healthy and any and all concerns about her health were "conspiracy theories." She, and everyone who believed that, put their reputations on the line defending her health as if the campaign rested upon the notion and smugly attacked anyone who dared questioned that narrative. Then she fell like a building on 9/11.

Who's going to trust her now? Even now, she's trying to play the "dehydrated" angle. Who believes that? I mean, outside the bubble world.

There isn't anything close to the number of Trump supporters who have been attacked (to be fair, I'm not going to blame this solely on Hillary, because for a good deal of the election, it was Bernie supporters who were attacking Trump supporters). Someone already posted a compilation video of Trump supporters being attacked. Nothing like that exists on that level for the other side. I'm not saying that Trump supporters haven't done stupid shit, as I definitely remember two Trump protesters being sucker punched at Trump rallies, but that's two versus dozens and dozens and dozens...

Edit - that video is from January and doesn't even include her coughing fits for the entire election year.

I said it in another thread but I think Trump is so bad that I would vote for Hillary even if she was on her death bed. Again, Kaine > Trump.

And that's crazy, Hillary supporters get shit on all the time. Look in these threads. People get blitzed for any level of support for Hillary. It's a charged election.

 

[kpt018]

Question... when was the last time Hillary said anything other than "white supremecy, Kkk, Trump is a racist, Pepe the frog..."? Like we know she can't do press conferences and can't draw flies to her rallies but has she offered one policy or one position in the general election? I am asking because the completely incompetent and unhinged candidate is giving policy speeches every week. What does she have to offer other than tired baiting and endless lies?

Hillary has been far more forthcoming and more detailed on all of her proposals whereas Trump offers nothing but rhetoric. Until he just released his child care plan the only idea with any level of detail was his dumb tax plan which comes right from the Republican play book.

 

[kpt018]

I doubt many but the hardcore lefties will ever believe that. Even a good portion of the left don't buy this "pneumonia" cover.

Even if it is pneumonia, it'll take one cough caused by anything, to get people questioning her health again. It's not going away.

I think it will if she clearly looks healthy it will go away but to your point it is probably true that the media will continue to cover it if that isn't the case. They're doing a terrible job of covering this election all around.