1998 Film "The Siege" Discussion

[Big_Chief_Stove]

Has anyone else seen this movie?









Its a pre-9/11 Islamic Terrorist Sleeper Cell scenario in New York. Stars Denzel Washington and Bruce Willis.


How eerily prophetic has this movie turned out to be? A lot of the things that go down in it are currently playing out or very likely could.

Would a combination of the MSM and the Department of Defense ever be able to sway the will of the people enough to justify internment camps for Muslims in the eyes of the American people? Its happened before with the Japanese during WWII and with the Native Americans before that. Is it really a stretch to think that people in our gov't would try to do it again?

 

[Protectandserve]

Great flick. Very under rated. Luckily the US isn't quite to that point yet.

 

[Big_Chief_Stove]

Great flick. Very under rated. Luckily the US isn't quite to that point yet.

Very underrated.

Luckily I don't believe we're there quite yet either, but I don't think its outside the realm of possibility.

 

[Coolidge]

I forgot you recommended it. Thanks for the reminder.

 

[SRN]

I watched it many years ago and I thought it was a good movie but I don't remember very well. I'm going to watch it again.

 

[Social Distance Warrior]

Great scenes....great debate...

Annette Bennings character seemed unrealistic and annoying..

Besides that, solid film

 

[Big_Chief_Stove]

I forgot you recommended it. Thanks for the reminder.

You bet, definitely worth a watch.

 

[Big_Chief_Stove]

I watched it many years ago and I thought it was a good movie but I don't remember very well. I'm going to watch it again.

Very underrated.

 

[Big_Chief_Stove]

Great scenes....great debate...

Annette Bennings character seemed unrealistic and annoying..

Besides that, solid film

Yeah she definitely wasn't the strongest feature of the film. Denzel Washington and Tony Shalhoub both give tremendous performances though.

 

[IDL]

It would take a pretty major disaster / crisis for anything like internment camps to occur.

Japanese were interned in the context of a world war fighting against Japan.

 

[sloppypie]

i'm glad you brought that movie up TS, it's actually a very good movie that never got much attention. kinda brushed off as a ridiculous action-thriller type of movie.

but conservatives are already talking about taking away the rights of any muslim americans. monitor them without warrants, newt gingrich says we should interrogate any muslim that we suspect believes in sharia law (very mccarthy era of him), ban them completely, and trump said he supported our internment camp of the japanese in ww2.

so yea, if we had bus bombings, cafe bombings, theaters, etc., we'd certainly put muslims in camps. the thing with the movie though was it was happening exclusively in new york city, so it was more dramatic to invoke martial law and a complete lockdown of the city and everyone's rights. i highly doubt that'd happen, terrorists as a whole aren't the brightest people. but across the country yea, we'd definitely see some serious setbacks.

what it tells me is we clearly do not learn from our history. awful things happen, we forget about them, they dissipate from our culture and our thoughts, and then they repeat again. just look at this very board - half the threads are people finding either obscure news articles about muslims and blm/"sjw" headlines, or they post completely fabricated stories then get each other riled up and angry over something that didn't actually happen. we are morons, we want conflict and we want to hate something.

it worries me tremendously that so many people are so eager to betray everything we stand for as a country. i hope we don't go down that road, but with the way things are going i can't even rule out that what happened in that movie wouldn't happen in the very near future.

 

[Big_Chief_Stove]

I forgot you recommended it. Thanks for the reminder.

Hit me up when you get a chance to watch it, I'd love to pick your ear a bit about what your thoughts on it are.

 

[dontsnitch]

Can we discuss Under Siege instead?

 

[Big_Chief_Stove]

It would take a pretty major disaster / crisis for anything like internment camps to occur.

Japanese were interned in the context of a world war fighting against Japan.

That is true, we're not there right now. However with the current state of things internationally, it seems more and more likely that an event could present it self that would "justify" such actions.

 

[Coolidge]

Internment camps would be a great idea if your (whoever's doing it) mission was to validate Muslim victimhood. If that ever happened, I'd be there right beside American Muslims -- while still criticizing the religion of Islam, of course.

 

[Social Distance Warrior]

Yeah she definitely wasn't the strongest feature of the film. Denzel Washington and Tony Shalhoub both give tremendous performances though.

Bruce Willis also...he was solid..
His confrontation with denzel regarding torture and the end of the film is what makes this film great...

 

[Big_Chief_Stove]

i'm glad you brought that movie up TS, it's actually a very good movie that never got much attention. kinda brushed off as a ridiculous action-thriller type of movie.

but conservatives are already talking about taking away the rights of any muslim americans. monitor them without warrants, newt gingrich says we should interrogate any muslim that we suspect believes in sharia law (very mccarthy era of him), ban them completely, and trump said he supported our internment camp of the japanese in ww2.

so yea, if we had bus bombings, cafe bombings, theaters, etc., we'd certainly put muslims in camps. the thing with the movie though was it was happening exclusively in new york city, so it was more dramatic to invoke martial law and a complete lockdown of the city and everyone's rights. i highly doubt that'd happen, terrorists as a whole aren't the brightest people. but across the country yea, we'd definitely see some serious setbacks.

what it tells me is we clearly do not learn from our history. awful things happen, we forget about them, they dissipate from our culture and our thoughts, and then they repeat again. just look at this very board - half the threads are people finding either obscure news articles about muslims and blm/"sjw" headlines, or they post completely fabricated stories then get each other riled up and angry over something that didn't actually happen. we are morons, we want conflict and we want to hate something.

it worries me tremendously that so many people are so eager to betray everything we stand for as a country. i hope we don't go down that road, but with the way things are going i can't even rule out that what happened in that movie wouldn't happen in the very near future.

Exactly, there are politicians talking about these sort of actions RIGHT NOW. People forget that or deny it.

"The Siege" gives a creepy insight on what the National Defense Authorization Act could do if invoked to control the Muslim community.

 

[Big_Chief_Stove]

Bruce Willis also...he was solid..
His confrontation with denzel regarding torture and the end of the film is what makes this film great...

the torture confrontation for sure was a great exchange between the two. Willis played a great villain.

 

[Rex Kwon Do]

Starring Serbian action star Stjepan Seagalović? Or is this different? I have not seen either, if they're two different things, no.

 

[Big_Chief_Stove]

Internment camps would be a great idea if your (whoever's doing it) mission was to validate Muslim victimhood. If that ever happened, I'd be there right beside the Muslims -- while still criticizing the religion of Islam, of course.

Of course, joining them and criticizing them at the same time in that case would make sense to me. I'm more asking whether you feel it could realistically go down like that, not so much whether it should or not.