17 too late

Use the search function . There's constant threads by kids asking if they are to old for the sport. Regardless of your age chances are you will never be that good. It will just be a hobby for you anyway
 
listen to your parents.. get an education 1st... go to a MMA gym and see how it goes before you commit yourself to MMA
 
take two classes in muay thai then after you are a pro go uppercut your parents for not letting you do this earlier.
 
17 is too old. You do, however, have plenty of time to become an Accountant. Look at the bright side.
 
Jack F said:
I really got into mma when I was 15. I come from a ethnic background so my parents were really against it. I went to a muay thai lesson and I loved it. However at the gym the men were covered in tattoos so my dad with his thinking said I can't go because it's a bad influence. For the past year my parents have forced me to study but all I can think about is mma. After this years final exams I want to start training and go pro. Is it too late for me too start and am I too behind for a beginner. The only practice I have is like two muay thai lessons and I have a bag at home which I constantly box and kick on.

Thank you
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Much depends on the individual. Second is who is teaching you, and how they go about it.

When I first made my way to the west coast I wanted to train with Matt Hume, but dropped the idea after realizing, for many reasons, that I didn't want to live the MMA lifestyle/culture. Considered going pro twice (99ish and 2004-2005). MMA Mcdojo's are everywhere now, and many that have competed don't have the ability to transmit that through a curriculum. I have trained at about 20 different places over 20 years, under national, and Olympic level fighters from several disciplines and can save you a lifetime. Go ahead ask me anything.
 
Thread number 1 000 000 000 on this subject.
 
Hogey said:
Use the search function . There's constant threads by kids asking if they are to old for the sport. Regardless of your age chances are you will never be that good. It will just be a hobby for you anyway
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I concur I know a lot of guys who were hot shit in the smaller orgs and never made it to the ufc or made any money brutal career path.
 
you should have filled the room with uppercuts when ud dad sonned u so hard. u wiull never sucvceed in mma
 
For the record, I'd like to change my previous response to this ^^
 
Exi-Meta-Tran-Man said:
Much depends on the individual. Second is who is teaching you, and how they go about it.

When I first made my way to the west coast I wanted to train with Matt Hume, but dropped the idea after realizing, for many reasons, that I didn't want to live the MMA lifestyle/culture. Considered going pro twice (99ish and 2004-2005). MMA Mcdojo's are everywhere now, and many that have competed don't have the ability to transmit that through a curriculum. I have trained at about 20 different places over 20 years, under national, and Olympic level fighters from several disciplines and can save you a lifetime. Go ahead ask me anything.
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So are the people with olympic level wrestling and kids who have already started training, miles ahead of me and I can't catch up?
 
You sound pretty smart so you can probably afford to get punched in the head every day for the next 25 years, if that's what you want
 
geez man, CM Punk tried at fucking 40... yeah I know the results were horrible but my point is at least he had the drive to do it that fucking old in his life, and here you are asking at fucking 17!!
 
Listen to your parents and study. Keep mma as a hobby.
 
RJ43 said:
17 is too old. You do, however, have plenty of time to become an Accountant. Look at the bright side.
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new breed of accountants are said to have abacuses in the womb.
 
Jack F said:
So are the people with olympic level wrestling and kids who have already started training, miles ahead of me and I can't catch up?
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Brushing aside all complexity of the question, the answer is no.
Experientially you do not know enough of yourself to make the determination, even, and perhaps especially when measuring yourself to others perceived ability's.
You need to focus on you.

What is your physical attributes, strengths, and or advantages?
Are you above average natural athletic ability?
Is your diet & sleep dialed in?
Are you competitive?
Are you academically inclined?
And a hundred other questions to ask yourself.


Look if you go to 99% of the clubs/gyms out there, they will turn you into b-league can, unless you take it upon yourself to hit the books and grab a pad and pen. Training twice a day, 6 days a week, will more likely make you just another cookie cutter fighter. The whole martial arts community, modern or traditional, is full of cult like figures, bull shitters, tough guys, self deluded fuck tards, and guys who temporarily made it to the top, had their body fall apart, and are just trying to make a buck off you and are cashing in on the MMA phenomenon. Most of the gym curriculum's (if you can call them that) are absolute shit. Most of the time you will be doing circuits, hitting bags, or just sitting on a mat with 10 to 50 guys with a dumb look in their face as they are told to do 1,2 & 1,2,3 movements of some sort or another useless drill that will be forgotten by most by the next day. No matter what you need to learn to self teach even under the tutelage of others. You want a nice smooth progressional curve, with no waste, and to do that you need to get your pen out.

Find a gym with an active pro team and make that your goal. Give it a try, and keep revisiting your thoughts on this as you go.

From a young age I was hyper competitive, there wasn't a game or a sport that I wasn't obsessed with being the best at. I also had some genetic advantages. That and fighting for me started at 4 years old, and I didn't win my first fight until I was 6. So fighting was like walking at an early age.

I loved using creativity, and imagination just as much as a compulsion to repeat a motion until it was refined to perfection, and I had an analytical mind, that compelled me to seek efficiency in movement, and to create effective strategies to train, or to fight. For many, many years the last thing in my mind before sleep would be a half hour or so of visualization and going over sequences of movements, strategy's, scenario's, tactics and methods, and going over the training sessions and sparring sessions of the day. If there is nothing you would rather do, or think about, this may work for you.

People spend waaaaay to much time and energy training the body, when the real power is in training your mind.
Focus your secondary education on coaching, Sports science/medicine, educational theory, kinesiology etc... to get a educational advantage.


I could go on for years. Just pm me, for anything. I will see if I can help you.
I developed my own curriculum many years ago out of frustration of the lack of information and standards that were available in my time, so I can address just about any training question you may have. (another reason I prefer pm, is that you are not allowed to be good at anything on the internet or you are considered a braggart or a lair, so I could do without that haters) The worst I can be called in any vain of truth would be a has-been, coulda-been, or a shoulda-been. It's true, so I don't get offended by that.

Take it with a shrug and a grain of salt, after all I'm just another guy on the interweb. I am however certain I can save you a lot of time and energy.


Apologies for the disjointed meandering post. I have my kids with me, and they are jealous of the Sherdog.

fyi, I have hardly given mma a thought in the last 3 years and haven't trained at all in 6 years. So I am motivated to help you, as much as I am interested to see what I still can recall.
 
you can be smart and get an education or you can go bush and try to scrape a living as a fighter.

You will get concussed. Many times.
On the rare, rare chance you are amazing you will make a couple hundred k a year... which you could be doing with a good job and not getting constant injuries.

Its your choice but as a martial artist I say take martial arts but dont go in with any dreams of going pro, just take it as it comes.
 
Jack F said:
I really got into mma when I was 15. I come from a ethnic background so my parents were really against it. I went to a muay thai lesson and I loved it. However at the gym the men were covered in tattoos so my dad with his thinking said I can't go because it's a bad influence. For the past year my parents have forced me to study but all I can think about is mma. After this years final exams I want to start training and go pro. Is it too late for me too start and am I too behind for a beginner. The only practice I have is like two muay thai lessons and I have a bag at home which I constantly box and kick on.

Thank you
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kid, listen to your Rents. Education is always a first, MMM is a 2nd.
 
Ts that's a poor defeatist attitude. Have the tattooed guys beat up your parents then purchase peds from them and start training. Never give up on a dream.
 
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