155lbs: Issues at Lightweight, Including Arman's Weight

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Lightweight in MMA has always been a shark tank due to it being the spot where the most average sized men can cut weight to. Well, almost always, but even when they axed it from the UFC, Gomi was still running shit overseas.

Over the last few years, we have had an absolute rat race with the title being passed around by the Two Princes of Dagestan before Islam vacated due to his love of baked goods growing with age.

Arguably, it is easier than ever to get a title shot at LW, yet we are seeing it enter an inactivity slump which we haven't seen in ages. No hunger, no one begging for a title shot outside of a small handful.
For a long time, seemingly the entire division wanted to add "Khabib/Islam's Skull" to their belt wall, perhaps as it's weight at the time was more than the gold itself (huge brow bones).

Now, while our new, flamboyant, German-Georgian-Spanish champion holds the belt while dropping bodies...there seems to have been a wall hit in fighters wanting to fight upwards at 155, and you people don't even have Dustin Poirier to blame anymore.

Let's go down the list and pick apart the issues in the division.
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C. Topuria - Ilia and his brother announced earlier that while one was in camp, the other never would be. As an older brother, I respect it, as a fan of the sport, I hate it. He's guaranteeing inactivity. Won't see him till 2026, will be lucky to see him twice next year. Probably going through some emotional stuff after being BTFO by Crawford. 2 fights a year tops for Tops.

1. Islam - isn't even a LW anymore

2. Arman - More interested in grappling with 50 year old Ben Henderson, trying to find Nina onlfans, and blogging about/consuming copious amounts of food rather than fighting
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3. Max Hollaway - Coming off of a brutal KO loss to Tops then retiring Dustin. Days as a top contender are probably done. Would rather he takes fun fights. Blessed vs Hooker?

4. Chucky Olives - coming off a brutal KO loss to Topuria, lost to Arman, still somehow back in there before either of them

5. Justin Gaethje - Has beaten Fiziev, with Ali ducking other fights for him demanding title shots. JG is in a weird spot, I've been pushing him to fight Hooker forever. They were scheduled, Hooker was injured, Justing boxed up Fiziev again. I feel like Justin might be wanting to go out on his shield against Topuria in one last title fight and retire. He's 36 and getting brutally slept isn't sustainable, but he's got another go in him. LET JUSTIN SLEEP

6. Dan Hooker - Speak of the devil. Hope his hand heals up and they can rebook him and Justin or Max in a FOTY.

7. Paddy - The Baddy has been on a roll, but he could use another big name to fight. Ferguson, Bobby, and Chandler are shop worn and held together by duct tape. Wouldn't mind seeing him against anyone ranked above him or Gamrot. He is large for the division, but I need to see him get one more serious win before I can confidently say he is a true contender. I learned my lesson with Darren Till.

8. Gamer Gamrot - The fight which Arman is actually ducking with his pasta consumption, Gamrot may be boring to watch much of the time (though not all at all) he has a plan in his head (allegedly) and he sticks to it. Two split decision losses and a single UD loss, he is the wrestling boogeyman of the division as long as his chin stays uncracked, he'll be a consistent issue. That and not dinging any judges cars in the parking lot.

9. Benny Dariush - Beat up Moicano (embarrassing for Money). Benny isn't even a once a year fighter. He is the only one to clearly beat Gamrot with a UD, yet that was three years ago, with 3 fights since for Benny.
Think he's winding it down.

10, 11, 12 - Fizzy, Moicano, and Chandler have all lost to guys above them, and should be taking any fight offered to get back in the green and try to climb while there is room.
Chandler is done for, he's already shop worn and old.
Fizzy might be able to keep himself mid ranked with a few wins as long as we keep him away from Gaethje, while Moicano has fumbled his position with the loss to Benny completely when it comes to title fights, guy will never be near gold again, so he probably doesn't really care how often he fights at this point.

13, 14, 15 - BSD just won a fight where I was picking against him by absolutely thrashing Ruffy whose room temperature fight IQ in that scrap allowing BSD to get back to his feet for no reason led directly to the finish.
Grant Dawson...guys I will be completely honest and tell you I have forgotten about Grant Dawson's existence since Bobby "King of CTE" Green put his lights out.

Outside of the top 15, we have a few people who I believe will be making splashes in the top 15 soon enough in Myktybek Orolbai (who is, I shit you not, a lawyer) strong as all shit with servicable grappling and an incredible fighting spirit, famous for his eye swelling to a grapefruit in a barnburner against Rebecki, Chris Duncan, and Nazim Sadykhov.

What do you guys think? I believe the lightweights really need to step up to the plate.

NO ARMAN NOT LIKE THAT!
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I think the modern LW is actually bigger than your typical man. I've heard a lot of them are 180-200. Average man is 160-170.
Most 155ers are 5'9"-5'10", the average US man is 5'9" 199lbs, but that's skewed due to fats.

You have guys like Joel Alvarez who is my height and probably walks around my weight 205-210 cutting down to LW. Absolutely ridiculous.
But I feel like he and Jalin Turner are extreme outliers, not the average.
 
TS , do you know that Arman is asking to fight Topuria but Ila doesn't have any interest.

yes, you do know but acting like you don't know
 
I think the modern LW is actually bigger than your typical man. I've heard a lot of them are 180-200. Average man is 160-170.
A lot of lightweights nowadays seem to just get fat as fuck and balloon past their real natural weight.
 
Topuria also being choosy. No-selling the Arman fight and talking about moving up already to chase Islam, or a boxing match.

Tbf to Arman, he was blackballed for pulling out and spent a lot of time waiting for another TS opportunity.

Chucky and Gaethje have become choosy in their later years. I think they're both just trying to maximize and squeeze every last bit of juice out of the good faith that they accumulated over the years for being exciting.

Paddy's career is actually being managed correctly as opposed to throwing him to wolves. I do believe he's at the point though where there's no more softballs for him. I'm not mad at this strategy, but it certainly has impacted matchmaking. He has beef with Arman and Topuria and those matches have yet to be made.

Gamrot has become that dude that no one wants to fight. Olives just ducked him. I believe BSD declined a fight with him as well.

Fiziev keeps getting injured.

Chandler been waiting for Conor.

Add all this up and it's easy to see why we're not getting many of the matches that would actually make sense and keep things moving. LW is, and historically has been, quite deep. But, we went from a log jam of established stars who were still good enough to turn away the up and comers, to what we have now. Still a kind of log jam.
 
Most 155ers are 5'9"-5'10", the average US man is 5'9" 199lbs, but that's skewed due to fats.

You have guys like Joel Alvarez who is my height and probably walks around my weight 205-210 cutting down to LW. Absolutely ridiculous.
But I feel like he and Jalin Turner are extreme outliers, not the average.
199 is the US average (fair bit lower in a lot of other countries). Yes, the 300+ people are going to screw this a lot but we also need to look at their fitness level too.

If you are fighting professionally and training all the time, most would be walking around in the 10-15% body fat range.

What would your average guy weigh with no excess weight?
 
I think the modern LW is actually bigger than your typical man. I've heard a lot of them are 180-200. Average man is 160-170.
Forsure. These guys are 5'8" - 5'10" usually and 180-190 when in "normal" shape (not Paddy gorging himself) and are 1.5-2X as strong as your normal 5'-10" 180-190 lbs guy.

Unless someone is in the NFL or NBA, they aren't looking at these guys as "small"
 
In like China or something sure
Most 155ers are 5'9"-5'10", the average US man is 5'9" 199lbs, but that's skewed due to fats.
Yes, that figure is actually correct in terms of averages, the 160-170 pounds. The average male size in the US that stated 5'9" and 199 weight came from a study that also averages a 40 inch waist, which for most guys that height is carrying substantial extra weight. UFC LWs are naturally bulkier than your average man at that weight; Illia looks pretty big as does Islam.
 
If we assume Arman's pullout against Islam was due to a bad weight cut, then he's missed weight twice. I do think there's a possibility that he had a minor injury and a difficult (but do-able) weight cut, and decided not to fight Islam at a disadvantage. It's still scummy and should be punished, but I'm not convinced he will miss weight again.

Either way, I think Arman got the message: don't pull out of another fight unless something is broken. Let's see what he does with this chance.
 
I think the modern LW is actually bigger than your typical man. I've heard a lot of them are 180-200. Average man is 160-170.
A lot of weight inflation going on, some random fighter says " I heard lightweight X walks around at 200" and then the MMA community just runs with it lol.
 
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