Crime 12 Police Officers shot, 5 fatally, by snipers during BLM protest in downtown Dallas (Part 1)

[Peteyandjia]

4 of them?? damn. Last I heard there was only 2.

'In custody' doesn't necessarily mean all are confirmed shooters.

 

[Falsedawn]

Don't forget about Obama.

Sadly there's always pieces of shit willing to use horrific events such as these to spew hatred. Even in this very thread.

Especially coming from "Lesbians dont exist" Milo Yiannopoulos.

Used to think he was pretty cool until I realized that he makes his bones off of pawning the lowest common denominator. Outside of the dank may-mays, he says a lot of really stupid shit.

 

[Gregolian]

You could be right, I'm just trying to point out we live in a different time now where people train shit like this bud and they aren't military.

Yea its not really baloney. I'm telling you straight up that I'm from Dallas, which pretty much means I know a ton of guys that grew up shooting guns and you would not want them coming after you and they were not military trained. Sometimes its part of the culture. Down south we start giving our sons guns and teaching them to shoot when they are 8 years old.

I know guys that grew up shooting since they were able to walk (starting with BB guns) and training. 3 gun guys being an exception most civilians that didn't do it for a living don't move like that.

Just watching that clip reminds me of how guys like these move:

Tried to address the way 3 gun guys move in another post. Even with that, not all 3 gun guys can move like that.

 

[NelmarksGhost]

I doubt we'll seen any new legislation because of this. This is normal now people.

Imagine if the attackers turned out to be Russian spetsnaz with painted faces. Or, the cartel flexing a little.

 

[MiniCraque]

I still have to stand by what I said - this might have been one incident, but how can we put men and women in harm's way without giving them the tools they need to protect themselves and others? I really hope the police weren't outgunned so there wouldn't even need to be a step up in equipment but tonight showed that bigger cities really need to prep for these scenarios.

Giving them appropriate firepower is fine as long as the're well trained in the use of it. Not just the use of the weapon of itself, but when to use it, rules of engagement, etc etc. The last thing you want is twitchy officers wielding heavy weaponry during situations that don't even warrant it.

 

[COTUR1@43]

I don't know how many of you guys are old enough to remember the world before things like cell phones but it seems almost surreal to me now that every event that happens is filmed and put online for the world to see. I remember a world where this was not possible and the difference between that world and this one is huge.

I am old enough to remember that very different world also. I think social media has done a ton of damage to the culture of this country.

 

[Arkain2K]

 

[MusterX]

Police should leak the names to the 4channers. Not only will those autistic kids find every single person in the clique, the police will know everything about the suspects: what porn they like, where they were conceived, etc.

One does not simply fuck with the 4channers. They are a vicious bunch.

 

[Devout Pessimist]

This is literally still an active situation and retards have it all figured out.

If this turns out not to have anything to do with BLM, this dicktuck is gonna be glorious.

It does have a lot to do with BLM, even if they were not directly involved in this (which by the sounds of it, they probably were not). It is racist hate groups like BLM that contribute to the demonizing of the police and encourages these senseless attacks. Ideas have consequences.

It is a number of things that have contributed to this shooting including the mainstream media, Obama's cowardice, racist hate-groups like BLM and yes, police violence.

 

[SRN]

This is really bizarre

Suspects tried to get away so to me that rules out Islamic terrorism for now

Don't think it's BLM because this would only serve to severely undermine their "cause", plus it's far too organized

Thought the tactical proficiency might suggest ex-military, Tim McVeigh type anti-gov domestic terrorists trying to incite a war between government and BLM. Then I saw that at least one of the suspects is explosive

Explosive or not, I'd still be surprised if they're affiliated with BLM

Trying to think of other deliberate attacks on law enforcement... Eric Dorner comes to mind. Perhaps these are ex-LEOs waging a personal vendetta?

Perhaps this is just one phase of a larger multiphase plan, similar to the DC Snipers

Whatever the motive, these aren't a couple of people impulsively lashing out in response to the Louisiana/Minnesota shooting. There had to be some prior training and planning involved. Might mean they've just been waiting for the right time to do this; perhaps the police shootings and subsequent protests presented a prime opportunity to disguise their identity/motive by using those shootings and BLM to run interference for them.

They either planned this a long time ago and were just waiting for an opportunity or this was a reaction from what happened this week. Either way I think it's safe to say they knew what they were doing.

Just watched the footage of the pillar gunfight,

Zero hesitation just shot him in the back of the head.

That footage alone will get him the chair

It will be really difficult to be his lawyer.

 

[Anung Un Rama]

I still have to stand by what I said - this might have been one incident, but how can we put men and women in harm's way without giving them the tools they need to protect themselves and others? I really hope the police weren't outgunned so there wouldn't even need to be a step up in equipment but tonight showed that bigger cities really need to prep for these scenarios.

If they had fully automatic M16s they would have still been sniped from the high ground.
These guys weren't working with the kind of weaponry those maniacs in North Hollywood were. This looked like 9mm and AR15s, nothing exotic. The cop by the pillar was not outgunned, he was out maneuvered -- most likely out motivated; its one thing to defend yourself and others, but when one person is determined to kill, its tough for a normal human being to match that intensity in a moments notice.

 

[Gregolian]

It will be really difficult to be his lawyer.

"Temporary insanity brought on by extreme emotional distress related to all the deaths of minority suspects at the hands of police"

If they had fully automatic M16s they would have still been sniped from the high ground.
These guys were working with the kind of weaponry those maniacs in North Hollywood were. This looked like 9mm and AR15s, nothing exotic.

Didn't the North Hollywood shooters modify their AKs to fire full auto and shit though? I'm under 30 so I don't remember much if anything of that event.

 

[M3t4tr0n]

no. its not obamas fault...

I agree with this statement

 

[Falsedawn]

It does have a lot to do with BLM, even if they were not directly involved in this (which by the sounds of it, they probably were not). It is racist hate groups like BLM that contribute to the demonizing of the police and encourages these senseless attacks. Ideas have consequences.

It is a number of things that have contributed to this shooting including the mainstream media, Obama's cowardice, racist hate-groups like BLM and yes, police violence.

Please, and i'm asking you this as a person with your best interests in mind.

Stop posting about American politics.

 

[Peteyandjia]

If they had fully automatic M16s they would have still been sniped from the high ground.
These guys were working with the kind of weaponry those maniacs in North Hollywood were. This looked like 9mm and AR15s, nothing exotic. The cop by the pillar was not outgunned, he was out maneuvered -- most likely out motivated; its one thing to defend yourself and others, but when one person is determined to kill, its tough for a normal human being to match that intensity in a moments notice.

There is also the tactical advantage a psychopath/sociopath has to spray fire in any direction without hesitation, whereas a cop's training is to be weary of his target's background.

 

[TheStruggle]

So who's Obama going to blame for this tonight?


Trump? Gun Control? Cops? Republicans?

 

[Fedorable]

Thanks Obama.

While it isn't his fault, commenting on the two prior shootings without any facts of the investigations is reckless for our poor excuse for a president.

 

[Gregolian]

Has there been any statement yet from someone other than the police chief? I'm trying to avoid watching the news and getting most of my info from this thread actually.

 

[Devout Pessimist]

Please, and i'm asking you this as a person with your best interests in mind.

Stop posting about American politics.

What specifically am I wrong about? I find it hard to believe that the racism and hatred spewed by the mainstream media and Black Lives Matter in no way contributed to what happened tonight.

 

[Kowboy Karl]

I don't think this is Obama's fault in any way but I do have a lot of friends in law enforcement and most of them feel that Obama doesn't have their backs. I completely understand their viewpoint. I don't want to get in a long debate about it because sometimes police do screw up and should be punished, but many of these stories that go viral end up being ethically gray at best.

i don't like cops at all. i think they are so fake and shameless trigger happy good ol boy network jerks

but its hard not to get worn out buy the scum they encounter on the job and start getting radical in their thought process and attitudes towards certain groups of people. if you're a dog catcher you're more on edge when you approach a pit bull vs when you approach a cocker spaniel

and yes I'm referring to the young black kids that are disproportionally committing robberys home invasions and murders openly flaunting their hood ghetto mindsets with their face tattoos most likely derived from rap music and hip hop culture. you see their faces twice a day on houston chronicle online usually in groups of twos and threes. rarely do they commit these crimes individually.

bottom line is both sides are going in the wrong direction and today is the result.

hopefully black community leaders show some guts and encourage support for police asap before this divide gets worse.