Crime 1000 Muslims descend on Cologne train station to rape and grope women.

[sadclown]

That's nothing new and nobody is saying there are zero attacks on migrants.
But there is also nobody saying all migrants should be attacked and there is nobody saying all migrants are to blame.
It's no different to attacks on gay people, black people, goths etc.

If there is a HUGE backlash against a certain minority then it should be addressed, but it's sad when liberals almost seem to want this kind of backlash simply so they can carry on ignoring what is going on.

I'm pretty sure the attackers in those news reports might blame all migrants. Since they attacked indesciminately. Also, those in the news that called to ban all migrants might fall somewhere within the realm of "backlash against all migrants". But that's just my opinion.

By the way, who are these liberals who "almost seem to want this kind of backlash"?

 

[Matt M]

I'm pretty sure the attackers in those news reports might blame all migrants. Since they attacked indesciminately. Also, those in the news that called to ban all migrants might fall somewhere within the realm of "backlash against all migrants". But that's just my opinion.

By the way, who are these liberals who "almost seem to want this kind of backlash"?

It's the impression I get from hearing the excuses and deflection of blame.

I just don't understand why the first reaction of some people is to instantly deflect blame.
Let's be honest, the VAST majority of people do not blame all Muslims for anything. You can't use a small group of right wing morons as basis for a huge backlash against the community.

The thing about all this is that the authorities and the media held back from reporting on what happened simply because of the race of the attackers.
I think it's a smokescreen to say it's because they fear for a huge backlash because this huge backlash is a complete myth, it never ever happens on a large scale across a nation in Europe.

When this happened I actually saw someone say "well what about the white Germans who have sexually assaulted women over the past 100 years?".
It's incredible that people think like that!

 

[Thors Hammer]

Excelsior Hotel fired Ivan Jurcevic (a hotel club bouncer) for speaking about the sexual assaults he witnessed that were committed by Africans and Middle Easterners against European women.

eyewitness account (Blocked in Germany)- 2016

 

[sadclown]

It's the impression I get from hearing the excuses and deflection of blame.

I just don't understand why the first reaction of some people is to instantly deflect blame.
Let's be honest, the VAST majority of people do not blame all Muslims for anything. You can't use a small group of right wing morons as basis for a huge backlash against the community.

The thing about all this is that the authorities and the media held back from reporting on what happened simply because of the race of the attackers.
I think it's a smokescreen to say it's because they fear for a huge backlash because this huge backlash is a complete myth, it never ever happens on a large scale across a nation in Europe.

When this happened I actually saw someone say "well what about the white Germans who have sexually assaulted women over the past 100 years?".
It's incredible that people think like that!

If it's just an impression, then it's just an impression.

And I agree, I don't think the majority blame all Muslims.

And yes, I'm well familiar with right wing nutcases, some of whom can be found daily on this board. At first I wasn't sure if you were one of them. But I'm glad through conversations, it seems to me you are reasonable and fair minded.

 

[Matt M]

If it's just an impression, then it's just an impression.

And I agree, I don't think the majority blame all Muslims.

And yes, I'm well familiar with right wing nutcases, some of whom can be found daily on this board. At first I wasn't sure if you were one of them. But I'm glad through conversations, it seems to me you are reasonable and fair minded.

Yeah I try to look at everything down the middle and at both sides, but on average I would say my views would tend to lean to what many would call the right.
I could never be labelled a conservative tho because i'm an athiest and pro-choice for a start
But I don't like the terms right and left unless it's someone with a really extreme opinion.
Because too many people hear something and think they must instantly jump extremely to one side and just ignore everything else from the other side.

Not enough people start looking at things from straight down the middle and then form an opinion.

 

[Satur9]

Yeah I try to look at everything down the middle and at both sides, but on average I would say my views would tend to lean to what many would call the right.
I could never be labelled a conservative tho because i'm an athiest and pro-choice for a start
But I don't like the terms right and left unless it's someone with a really extreme opinion.
Because too many people hear something and think they must instantly jump extremely to one side and just ignore everything else from the other side.

Not enough people start looking at things from straight down the middle and then form an opinion.

Ahh, this is refreshing.

I tend to do the same, though since I am pro gun, and anti extreme immigration, I am labeled a conservative. Doesn't matter that I am pro-choice, pro-women's rights, and against outlawing any certain religion in particular. I just tend to believe that people love a good fight, and will create enemies where none where there previously.

 

[dontsnitch]

This thread has become redundant at this point.

Aside from this being proof that Western cultures are antithetical to cultures that are fundamentally Muslim, there is not much else to say here.

I am very curious as to how the men found guilty will be punished, but I think that throwing this in the face of self-proclaimed Leftists, or those who are pro-refugee is not getting us anywhere.

 

[Thors Hammer]

This thread has become redundant at this point.

Aside from this being proof that Western cultures are antithetical to cultures that are fundamentally Muslim, there is not much else to say here.

I am very curious as to how the men found guilty will be punished, but I think that throwing this in the face of self-proclaimed Leftists, or those who are pro-refugee is not getting us anywhere.

I think its a perfect example of how leftist liberal thinking is a contagious mental disease.

 

[dontsnitch]

I think its a perfect example of how leftist liberal thinking is a contagious mental disease.

I think it is wrong to categorize all Liberals like this, but I do think it is kinda strange when people do not admit that this is a result of a culture-clash. Nevertheless, this has been said ad nauseam in this thread.

 

[TheGreatA]

I think its a perfect example of how leftist liberal thinking is a contagious mental disease.

This has nothing to do with liberals. Liberals defend Western values, such as democracy, women's rights, freedom of speech and religion to the bitter end. Fundamental Islam is the mortal enemy of any liberal.

 

[barehanded]

Excelsior Hotel fired Ivan Jurcevic (a hotel club bouncer) for speaking about the sexual assaults he witnessed that were committed by Africans and Middle Easterners against European women.

eyewitness account (Blocked in Germany)- 2016

This video was blocked in Germany? And he was fired because of telling the truth?

German liberals are really batshit crazy. I'm surprised that War Room isn't blocked in Germany.

Also lol at the liberal outrage about two or three attacks on immigrants that happened this year.

 

[ShinkanPo]

Yeah I try to look at everything down the middle and at both sides, but on average I would say my views would tend to lean to what many would call the right.
I could never be labelled a conservative tho because i'm an athiest and pro-choice for a start
But I don't like the terms right and left unless it's someone with a really extreme opinion.
Because too many people hear something and think they must instantly jump extremely to one side and just ignore everything else from the other side.

Not enough people start looking at things from straight down the middle and then form an opinion.

Agreed at this point this is not even about the left or right Political spectrum, There is an obvious push for international Islamism, Salafists are funding Mosques across the globe, some countries are being pressured by Saudi to give political control to Islamic Fundamentalists like calls for partial implementation of Sharia laws.

My country has 5% Muslim population and I don't think all that 5% wants Sharia law however there is still a strong push for the implementation of regional Sharia law in the Muslim enclaves

Then look at what is happening to France they have already 8% Islamic population are they going to push for a regional Sharia province in France? I hope not.

 

[Rex Kwon Do]

Agreed at this point this is not even about the left or right Political spectrum, There is an obvious push for international Islamism, Salafists are funding Mosques across the globe, some countries are being pressured by Saudi to give political control to Islamic Fundamentalists like calls for partial implementation of Sharia laws.

My country has 5% Muslim population and I don't think all that 5% wants Sharia law however there is still a strong push for the implementation of regional Sharia law in the Muslim enclaves

Then look at what is happening to France they have already 8% Islamic population are they going to push for a regional Sharia province in France? I hope not.

Really, only 5%? I'm kind of surprised. Is the birth rate for Muslims higher than for non-Muslims? Or are Catholic Pilipinos still having tons of kids, too?

 

[Luminaire]

Tolerance of intolerance is a funny thing...

 

[Matt M]

Agreed at this point this is not even about the left or right Political spectrum, There is an obvious push for international Islamism, Salafists are funding Mosques across the globe, some countries are being pressured by Saudi to give political control to Islamic Fundamentalists like calls for partial implementation of Sharia laws.

My country has 5% Muslim population and I don't think all that 5% wants Sharia law however there is still a strong push for the implementation of regional Sharia law in the Muslim enclaves

Then look at what is happening to France they have already 8% Islamic population are they going to push for a regional Sharia province in France? I hope not.

Well a survey done last year in the UK said that 27% of British Muslims sympathised with the Charlie Hebdo murders and 1 in 10 said they deserved it.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/rel...sympathise-with-Charlie-Hebdo-terrorists.html

Of course the liberal media basically just said 'well that's a minority', somehow missing that minority or not, that is still hundreds of thousands of Muslims holding extreme views in the UK alone.

 

[Romko4]

Well a survey done last year in the UK said that 27% of British Muslims sympathised with the Charlie Hebdo murders and 1 in 10 said they deserved it.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/rel...sympathise-with-Charlie-Hebdo-terrorists.html

Of course the liberal media basically just said 'well that's a minority', somehow missing that minority or not, that is still hundreds of thousands of Muslims holding extreme views in the UK alone.

Even though I do not agree with them, the charlie hebdo comics certainly crossed a line.

 

[Satur9]

Even though I do not agree with them, the charlie hebdo comics certainly crossed a line.

This is one of the problems. What line did they cross? How far is too far? I don't think any group should be able to draw a line in the sand, and say "don't cross this line right here".

It's not up to any group of people to determine what is not allowed. If it isn't against the law, and a just law at that, then nothing should happen to them at all.

 

[Luminaire]

Even though I do not agree with them, the charlie hebdo comics certainly crossed a line.

Nah, that line shouldn't exist.

 

[Matt M]

Even though I do not agree with them, the charlie hebdo comics certainly crossed a line.

Why? Because a certain part of a certain insane religion decides that drawing a cartoon of the phile warlord God they pray to is punishable by death?

 

[dontsnitch]

Why? Because a certain part of a certain insane -+religiondecides that drawing a cartoon of the phile warlord God they pray to is punishable by death?

I noticed a tangible inconsistency in thought from the PC crowd. A large portion is so worried about being sensitive and not marginalizing anyone that they will actively try to stop free speech, but in this instance, when the writers and cartoonist were blatantly publishing offensive material, they seemingly approved.