10-10 rounds

[Sticko]

To make things easy. I would make a 10-8 type of round a round where one fighter gets to fight ending damage but somehow survives to the bell. So it could be a big knockdown and a beating from topposition for instance but he luckily survives. Or one fighter gets such an amount of signifcant beating, being a punching bag + the fighter himself doesnt pose a threat anymore, and the ref could stop it anytime.

A 10-9 round I would say no fighter was close to a fight ending scenario. Both fighters still are threats to another. Even if one fighter outpoints another, without real fight ending damage.

So Poirier vs Holloway I would make it a draw. But Gaethje vs Ferguson if the bell for instance rang 5 seconds before the ref stopped it, that 5th round would be a 10-8, because Ferguson was a harmless punching bag. All the rounds before it 10-10. By this system you really appreciate the winner. The winner won by big margin. Gaethje build his way up to that 10-8 deserving round by constantly building up damage.

I always give the example of Wilder vs Fury 1, because it makes things more clear. Fury outpointed Wilder almost the whole fight, but he hardly gave any damage. Where as Wilder was always posing a threat the whole fight. And lo and behold, he knock em down cold, which to my standards proves Wilder is the more deserving winner. He did the most life threatening damage.

So your system would produce many more draws than the actual judging system, yet you think Wilder-Fury I, which was actually scored a draw, should have been a Wilder victory. Hmm

 

[Booksmasher]

So your system would produce many more draws than the actual judging system, yet you think Wilder-Fury I, which was actually scored a draw, should have been a Wilder victory. Hmm

Exactly! But dont forget. If these rules would be implemented, fighters would train to become more developed finishing fighters. So Colby Covington should have to evolve more. He would not be able to climb the ranks if he stagnates at his current skills.

 

[youllneverwalkalone]

But the most important criteria to me of margin difference between two fighters should be significant damage which has fight ending potential. Anything lower than that means the fighter is not a dangerous human being.

"Fight ending potential" is very subjective though and very hard to score for grappling exchanges especially.

If you only want finishes you might as well go back to UFC 1 rules and get rid of rounds and judging alltogether.

 

[Booksmasher]

If you only want finishes you might as well go back to UFC 1 rules and get rid of rounds and judging alltogether.

Well I am a proponent of Finish Only fights below the top 15. If you make it to the top 15 and the competition is harder a second way to win is to score a 10-8 round more than your opponent

 

[josh345]

just out of curiosity, what is this typical 10-9 round for you?


e.g. Justin Gaethje vs. Tony Ferguson

Would you have scored the first 4 rounds as 10-10 in you judging criteria or was there enough difference in some of them?

Because right now nearly every round is a 10-9 except if there is a complete and utter domination of one guy.

Like another example Poirier vs Holloway

50-50 draw?

How in the fuck was round 1 not a 10-8? Especially under the new rules which this fight was. Wasn’t max rocked like 3 times in this round and was retreating the whole time trying not to get finished? He was getting teed off on against the cage too every time he was rocked. Wtf

 

[youllneverwalkalone]

Well I am a proponent of Finish Only fights below the top 15. If you make it to the top 15 and the competition is harder a second way to win is to score a 10-8 round more than your opponent

Good luck getting your proposal implemented irl.

 

[Point Fight Devil]

I think before deciding if more 10-10 rounds are needed the following needs to be considered:

1) Understanding that judges are never going to be 100% correct, what would be an appropriate percentage of decisions that arguably go the wrong way?

2) How many decision fights would have been considered a bad decision in total as a percentage

My guess is that the number of robberies would be fairly low as a percentage. The other thing is that as I understand it, the goal of adding 10-10 rounds as an option would be to reduce bad decisions. I think it's debatable that this would actually help with that. Bad decisions in fights could very easily change from 'how did fighter x win that round' to 'how was round x considered 10-10'. I don't know that the current system is broke enough to need to be fixed.

 

[Booksmasher]

Good luck getting your proposal implemented irl.

Thanks