‘Worse than gymnastics’: Lawsuit makes explosive sex abuse allegations involving USA Diving

[sub_thug]

16-17 year old girls are not underage by any measure. Going after them past 20 or so is pretty damn tacky but biologically being attracted to them pretty normal to. Nothing pedophiliac about it. It doesn't even pass the general definition of hebephilia. An adult male not being physically attracted to a 16-17 year old girl would be abnormal (an attractive one obviously).

18 is the law. I walk it backwards exactly 0 days. This is a very hard line in the sand, and it deserves no compromise in my view. If you are over the age of 19, you shouldn't be going after anyone under 18.

 

[Kindacrazy]

18 is the law. I walk it backwards exactly 0 days. This is a very hard line in the sand, and it deserves no compromise in my view. If you are over the age of 19, you shouldn't be going after anyone under 18.

That's fine, but I wasn't talking about legal standards. You described the attraction as pedophilic, which it isn't. Describing normal sexual attraction as deviant doesn't help deal with the issues it raises, it simply obfuscates them. Advocating for tough legal standards in order to avoid social fallout is fine though. Although I don't think a 20-18 year old or a 19-17 year old match is crazy or obscene, just tacky.

 

[Gregolian]

18 is the law. I walk it backwards exactly 0 days. This is a very hard line in the sand, and it deserves no compromise in my view. If you are over the age of 19, you shouldn't be going after anyone under 18.

I disagree. Age of consent in many states is 16. Say someone is 18 when they start dating a 16 year old which happens in high school and shit... you saying at 19 they should be forced to break up?

 

[Quipling]

Your original claim, in posting the statute, was that this was an open and shut case of "rape" based on the fact that, even though the sex was consensual, consent was arrived at via "deception".

This is either a lie or sloppiness on your part. I did not assert that it was "an open and shut case of rape." In the post I replied to, you asserted that you "did not see how the case has a leg to stand on." I linked you to the sexual battery statute, 2907.03 as the leg it would stand on, not the rape statute, 2907.2.

This is exactly what occurs in many, many workplace sexual harassment cases. But I have yet to see even one lead to a rape conviction.

Irrelevant. This is not a workplace sexual harassment case. And there is no reason to believe that you are an authority on sex crimes. The anecdote is meaningless.

And, again, AOC in Ohio is 16.

Irrelevant.

Age of consent is a defense to statutory rape. It is not a defense to child pornography or sexual battery, which use the term "minor," defined as persons under the age of 18 in the linked statute.

 

[TheTimeIsNotNow]

18 is the law. I walk it backwards exactly 0 days. This is a very hard line in the sand, and it deserves no compromise in my view. If you are over the age of 19, you shouldn't be going after anyone under 18.

You sound old and out of touch

 

[sub_thug]

I disagree. Age of consent in many states is 16. Say someone is 18 when they start dating a 16 year old which happens in high school and shit... you saying at 19 they should be forced to break up?

Yes. I take a hard line here.

You sound old and out of touch

That's fine. I can live with that.

 

[ScottE]

You sound old and out of touch

He sounds alot better then some others in this thread who think a coach fucking his athletes is no big deal, or worse some teenager entrapment bullshit.

 

[GSP_37]

Power corrupts.

 

[Gregolian]

Yes. I take a hard line here.

It's probably cause I'm not a parent but I feel like that hypothetical is a gray area spot for me.

 

[HomerThompson]

Pics of the diver?

You're disgusting.

Fuck you.

 

[HomerThompson]

“Bohonyi psychologically coerced (the woman) into believing that she was required to perform sexual services in exchange for her continued involvement in diving,” the lawsuit read. “He preyed on her age, vulnerability, and dreams of becoming an Olympian, and used the power structure and imbalance of power (coach/athlete) to make her believe she was required to sexually service him in exchange for her involvement in diving for Team USA.”

Two questions...

1. Was she at the legal age of consent when the first sexual encounter occurred?

2. Is it against either the law or the policies of Ohio State for coaches to have romantic relationships with players?

The idea that a college aged athlete could believe a coach has the right to refuse to train players based on unwillingness to engage in sex acts is a tough one to swallow (no pun intended).

Yeah, let's defend the coach by casting aspersions on the victim.

You're a fucking idiot for this one.

 

[HomerThompson]

Not cool, man. If those are some 16-17 y/o girls, it's not cool to be saying that stuff. It's still pedo shit, and we should be drawing some hard lines about decency. This is one thing you won't find me joking about. I'll white knight like a son-of-a-bitch on this.

100% agree.

 

[Headkicktoleg]

You're disgusting.

Fuck you.

 

[HomerThompson]

Women didn't used to advertise their stupidity, but it looks like we have more skeletons in the closet at Ohio State a 6th grader's common sense wielded with conviction could have prevented...

 

[Headkicktoleg]

18 is the law. I walk it backwards exactly 0 days. This is a very hard line in the sand, and it deserves no compromise in my view. If you are over the age of 19, you shouldn't be going after anyone under 18.

That's not even true. A lot of places as long as they are 16 and you are within 5 years of that it's cool.

 

[franklinstower]

“Bohonyi psychologically coerced (the woman) into believing that she was required to perform sexual services in exchange for her continued involvement in diving,” the lawsuit read. “He preyed on her age, vulnerability, and dreams of becoming an Olympian, and used the power structure and imbalance of power (coach/athlete) to make her believe she was required to sexually service him in exchange for her involvement in diving for Team USA.”

Two questions...

1. Was she at the legal age of consent when the first sexual encounter occurred?

2. Is it against either the law or the policies of Ohio State for coaches to have romantic relationships with players?

The idea that a college aged athlete could believe a coach has the right to refuse to train players based on unwillingness to engage in sex acts is a tough one to swallow (no pun intended).

Wow..........

 

[HomerThompson]

ITT all the current/future rapists exposed themselves.

You people are sick, and should be ashamed of yourselves.

 

[Rational Poster]

Women didn't used to advertise their stupidity, but it looks like we have more skeletons in the closet at Ohio State a 6th grader's common sense wielded with conviction could have prevented...

Reported for victim blaming in a tragic news story thread.

 

[franklinstower]

It is NOT normal for a grown man to be attracted to underage kids even if those kids have gone through puberty. Its all about objectification. All I have to do is look into that kids eyes and consider the PERSON there and no attraction is possible. Dehumanization and objectification and extreme selfishness are the ONLY route to being attracted to underage kids FFS!!

 

[HomerThompson]

It is NOT normal for a grown man to be attracted to underage kids even if those kids have gone through puberty. Its all about objectification. All I have to do is look into that kids eyes and consider the PERSON there and no attraction is possible. Dehumanization and objectification and extreme selfishness are the ONLY route to being attracted to underage kids FFS!!

This thread is tragically disgusting.