Social ‘I love Hitler’: Leaked messages expose Young Republicans’ racist chat

[IanEdwards]

50% - they were just kids, everybody has written similar things with their buddies?, a lesbian hurt my feelings once, this won't stop until libtards stop calling conservatives racist, and what about what [insert somebody I have never heard of] said?

^^ this feels like the gist

scarily accurate summation

 

[fingercuffs]

Has it been addressed that they not only wanted to put people in gas chambers who didn't vote for him, they wanted to put people in who didn't ORIGINALLY vote for him in a shower with an acid bath?

If this isn't The Family, I don't know what it is. Watch it, read it.

 

[White Whale]

It was a bunch of jokes and sarcastic remarks. Democrats have not condemned Jay Jones and the the many videos of people celebrating Charlie Kirk's assassination.

 

[Andy Capp]

It was a bunch of jokes and sarcastic remarks. Democrats have not condemned Jay Jones and the the many videos of people celebrating Charlie Kirk's assassination.

Other idiots have already trotted out that bullshit ITT. You should take a look.

It's not at all surprising to see you chime in supporting these garbage people, mind you. You recognize yourself among them.

 

[HereticBD]

Must be frustrating being a Liberal and knowing that this scandal won't really have any teeth, because of what Democrats have endorsed in Virginia. If only they forced that guy out of the race, you might have some form of moral high ground here. Ah', but alas...

 

[Natural Order]

Hasan Piker:
I can't stand any of you dumbfucks in the in this goddamn chat. Oh my fucking god, I hate the left. I hate liberalism. I hate everything that's going on, every single day of the goddamn week. I hate my life. I hate streaming. I hate socialism. I hate every single person who thinks that the peak of activism is to be the most annoying holier-than-thou ...


I am almost in agreement with Hasan Piker, but I think of my hatred for other people as a personal failing. I think that the left/socialism/communism is inferior to the right/fascism in that communism is atheist, and religion gives a chance at learning a good morality. My morality is informed by the stories of the stoners and the prostitute (Post #542) and the tax collector asking for mercy while the Pharisee prayed about how good he was (Post #579).

This is you from your post #570: Never in my life have I said anything nearly as awful as they have.

I think this is a holier-than-thou Pharisee-like statement by you, but I don't hate you for it, and I have faith in you, or else I would not debate with you. It could be that my own ideas will also be improved by this debate.

When I stated in Post #573, "Maybe you will never be cancelled for the time that you used to be a dick, maybe." I hadn't yet watched Hasan's video. Hasan Piker is blaming the left for his unhappiness because he sees his leftist subscribers as the more proficient cancel culture warriors. In Post #494, I tried to engage GearMetalSolid that the most disturbing part of the cancelling of the Young Republicans, is that the leaker, Gavin Wax, is himself a Republican. Republicans must choose if they wish to become as proficient cancel culture warriors as leftists or if they want to denounce cancel culture, even amongst their own.

The thing with Hasan Piker, I don't think the worst thing about him is using the shock collar. A shock collar is a legal tool for dog training, and people can argue if there are better methods. My parents used corporal punishment against me as a child, and while I do not use it against my own children, I don't begrudge my parents. The problem with Hasan Piker is that he lied. He called it absurd that he reached for a shock controller, as absurd as reaching for a trap door control. But later, the shock collar controller was shown to be located at the exact spot where he reached. I think that Gavin Wax will come to a similar end with his denials of being the leaker. The thing is, I think Piker can be forgiven for shocking his dog, just as my parents can be forgiven for hitting me. The Young Republicans admit their chat posts were in poor taste, but some do not want to forgive them.

I want to forgive the Young Republicans. I even want to forgive Hasan Piker because I know that I am as bad (or worse) than him or a Young Republican or a tax collector or a prostitute. I want to take a stand against those who will not forgive. When the hands are raised with the stones, I want those hands to be defeated by the words of Ye's song. Perhaps the words, "I am Spartacus." could be occasionally substituted for Ye's lyrics to convey my intended meaning for the Ye's words, my intended meaning being: "He who is without sin cast the first stone."

Hasan is mentally ill (seriously) and will end up taking his life. Wait for it.

 

[Crazy Source]

It was a bunch of jokes and sarcastic remarks. Democrats have not condemned Jay Jones and the the many videos of people celebrating Charlie Kirk's assassination.

You are behind a good 24 hrs or so with this talking point. Get up to speed, ya hack.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Self talk is important bud. Be nicer to yourself

The beautiful irony.
Yet another example of a leftist quoting out of context their political enemy to deceive. Just like what this entire thread is based on.

I'll level with you, Taco.
The most ironic aspect of this story is it's another example that leftists can't take a joke and they are the joke.

The leftists who wrote and published the article saw how Republicans are mocking their Nazi accusations in a text conversation, and portrayed their conversations as serious.
They said it, you believe it, Taco.

Leftists wrote that Biden was 100% competent throughout his term... Up until the debate with Trump.
They said it, you believed it, Taco.

Leftists wrote there's an infinite number of genders, that men should undress with women in their locker rooms, men should compete against women in sports, and that women can get pregnant
They said it, you believed it, Taco.

Sooner or later you might visit the meme thread and wonder why not only the vast majority are right-wing & anti-leftist, it's because the left can't meme.
Not only are the facts not in your favor but also the complete lack of sense of humor.

In other words Taco... You leftists are the butt of the joke consistently.

 

[DoctorTaco]

leftists can't take a joke

Explain the joke: “I want to rape her to teach her a lesson”.

Biden was 100% competent throughout his term... Up until the debate with Trump.
They said it, you believed it, Taco.

Quote me where I said that

Leftists wrote there's an infinite number of genders, that men should undress with women in their locker rooms, men should compete against women in sports, and that women can get pregnant
They said it, you believed it, Taco.

Quote me where I said that

 

[Loiosh]

No, I never watched it. Never cared for him. I mean, I've seen clips and whatnot. But never really watched his show.

I have no idea what to say here. He was by far the most popular person on cable for years, but you didn't watch him, and assume I'm exaggerating. Do you think I'm lying about how David Duke felt about him? Do you not think it matters?

This is kind of vague. So how did the things these guys said equate to the unique blend of those 3 characteristics? Racism? Check. Didn't deep dive it. They anti-semitic too? Pushing for some sort of authoritarianism? But more importantly, are they serious about it?

I'm not going to play this game. You want a laser-specific definition of Nazism so you can can handwave anything that doesn't EXACTLY fit that definition; that isn't how dangerous ideas work. They start with a seed, and that seed slowly germinates into something dangerous. Obviously the threshold is subjective, but these guys are clearly well beyond the pale. You don't stop to consider if they're serious, they were comfortable talking like this.

Put it this way. Just for the sake of argument, Someone makes a joke that they love hitler, hate jews, and want to be a dictator. Are they now a nazi? That seems like a low threshold for such a big label.

It's an incredibly high threshold; you want the label defined as extreme as possible so you can dismiss as much as possible. If someone told me he loved Hitler, hated Jews and wanted to be a dictator, why exactly would I assume he was joking? And if I did, what should I think of a group of people that is comfortable consistently making that kind of joke?

A couple of years ago neo Nazis in Texas torched a synagogue and live-streamed their celebration for a week.

Youre getting a bit out there. Modern conservatives are essentially the racists of the deep south?

Yes, this is a much longer conversation, but it's correct. Lincoln abolished slavery and was assassinated, and Andrew Johnson neutered reconstruction. Conservatism has fought black rights and defended white supremacy since the beginning. It's still happening. The GOP is white washing history and institutionalizing the myth of American excellence. This administration removed the Pentagon tribute page to the the first black winner of the medal of honor and changed the URL to include "DEI medal". Conservatives gutted the VRA, and are poised to finish the job.

The CRT panic was designed to attack anything questioning white supremacy or promoting diversity, was based on a lie, and wildly successful in the conservative sphere. The attack on DEI was just an excuse to attack black people; hiring practices in America have never been a meritocracy and remain wildly racist where possible. Dismantling DEI makes it a lot more possible.

I would say theres no jokes "mixed in". That's what they were. Jokes can be reprehensible

That's a huge assumption and completely irrelevant. Someone who makes this kind of joke is someone who is comfortable saying these things.

 

[Bob Gray]

And these jokes have no place in our government. Rape being awesome, I love Hitler, gas chambers and what they said about the showers, the anti semitic crap and racism? You truly do not stand by that as someone who should keep their job. Right?

I already said they deserved all the fallout they get.

 

[Bob Gray]

I have no idea what to say here. He was by far the most popular person on cable for years, but you didn't watch him, and assume I'm exaggerating. Do you think I'm lying about how David Duke felt about him? Do you not think it matters?

Like I said, never cared for him. I dont think Ive watched an entire episode of anything on Fox news other than Gutfeld for like 15 years. Like I said, I saw clips and whatnot. Somebody might send me a segment they thought I'd like, or something might come up in my feed from The Great Algorithm, and Id check it out. But I just didnt like him.

I'm not going to play this game. You want a laser-specific definition of Nazism so you can can handwave anything that doesn't EXACTLY fit that definition; that isn't how dangerous ideas work. They start with a seed, and that seed slowly germinates into something dangerous. Obviously the threshold is subjective, but these guys are clearly well beyond the pale. You don't stop to consider if they're serious, they were comfortable talking like this.

This is exactly what Im referring to. Yes, you're right, I DO want a specific definition of Nazism, and will dismiss anything that doesnt fall under that definition, because that how definitions work. When you say Im not playing "that game", "that game" is called "How language works". You're free to argue that what these guys are doing is a dangerous seed, and that dangerous seeds can grow into something far worse. Like, for example, Nazism. Thats fair. But you cant just declare it Nazism and not have a specific definition for what that is and how this behavior falls under the definition. The short of it is, you're doing exactly what Im talking about. Definitions dont really matter, and to me theyre one of the most important things we have. You cant call a knife a spoon and then say theyre both silverware so theyre the same thing.

It's an incredibly high threshold; you want the label defined as extreme as possible so you can dismiss as much as possible. If someone told me he loved Hitler, hated Jews and wanted to be a dictator, why exactly would I assume he was joking? And if I did, what should I think of a group of people that is comfortable consistently making that kind of joke?

A couple of years ago neo Nazis in Texas torched a synagogue and live-streamed their celebration for a week.

I have no desire to "dismiss as much as possible". The only thing I want is a firm definition, and then excluding anything that doesn't fall under that firm definition as something else. This is not an extreme position by me. Did you ever think maybe you dont want to have a firm definition because you want to include as much as possible? We can back and forth with these games of implying what someone else wants, thinks or intends, but they go nowhere, and theyre usually equally applicable to everyone because theyre so arbitrary that you dont have to actually make a strong argument to support the position, just a vague reference to possibilities or simply claim someone thinks or wants something. I'm guilty of it too, sometimes, sure. But I try to avoid it.

I dunno why you brought up the neo nazis torching a synagogue a few years ago. That was wrong, I dont think anyone in this thread would support it, and I think the overwhelming majority of conservatives in America would be against it. Do you disagree? Are you saying theyre all conservatives because they torched a synagogue?

Yes, this is a much longer conversation, but it's correct. Lincoln abolished slavery and was assassinated, and Andrew Johnson neutered reconstruction. Conservatism has fought black rights and defended white supremacy since the beginning. It's still happening. The GOP is white washing history and institutionalizing the myth of American excellence. This administration removed the Pentagon tribute page to the the first black winner of the medal of honor and changed the URL to include "DEI medal". Conservatives gutted the VRA, and are poised to finish the job.

The CRT panic was designed to attack anything questioning white supremacy or promoting diversity, was based on a lie, and wildly successful in the conservative sphere. The attack on DEI was just an excuse to attack black people; hiring practices in America have never been a meritocracy and remain wildly racist where possible. Dismantling DEI makes it a lot more possible.

Yeah, we've touched on this before. All I can say is, we disagree.

That's a huge assumption and completely irrelevant. Someone who makes this kind of joke is someone who is comfortable saying these things.

I think intentions are always relevant. They dont necessarily make the end result better, but theyre always relevant. The guys you posted above that torched the synagogue are much worse than the guys that posted this stuff in a private chat, but it almost feels like you're equating the two things.

 

[b34stmode]

It was a bunch of jokes and sarcastic remarks. Democrats have not condemned Jay Jones and the the many videos of people celebrating Charlie Kirk's assassination.

calling NBA players monkeys and saying you would rather see monkeys at the zoo is "jokes" to you? The hell is wrong with you?

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

Look at these fine specimens of the master race. LOL!

The Republican party has truly become the home of weird fat guys

 

[DoctorTaco]

It was a bunch of jokes

“I want to rape her to teach her a lesson”

Explain the joke please.

. Democrats have not condemned Jay Jones and the the many videos of people celebrating Charlie Kirk's assassination.

Whataboutism.

 

[Source]

It was a bunch of jokes and sarcastic remarks. Democrats have not condemned Jay Jones and the the many videos of people celebrating Charlie Kirk's assassination.

That’s not true. I think they should have been more stern and withdrawn their support. They have condemned what he said.

Here are several Virginia dems saying what Jones said was wrong.

Democratic leaders across Virginia responded with near-universal disgust — but stopped short of demanding Jones end his campaign.

U.S. Sen. Mark Warner, D-Va., called the comments “appalling” and “inconsistent with the person I’ve known.”

Spanberger, the Democratic nominee for governor, said she was “disgusted” by Jones’s remarks and had spoken directly with him Friday afternoon.

“I made clear to Jay that he must fully take responsibility for his words,” Spanberger said in a statement. “As a candidate — and as the next governor of our commonwealth — I will always condemn violent language in our politics.”

State Sen. Ghazala Hashmi, the Democratic nominee for lieutenant governor, said Jones “must take accountability for the pain that his words have caused.”

Virginia Senate Majority Leader Scott Surovell, D-Fairfax, was among the most forceful in his response, calling the texts “a serious lapse in judgment that cannot be defended.”

“While we don’t share the same political views, I consider Todd Gilbert a friend and an honorable person,” Surovell said. “The comments directed at him and his family were completely out of bounds.”

Surovell added that the context of the exchange — apparently sparked by condolences after Johnson’s passing — made the remarks “even more inappropriate.”

‘Beyond disqualifying’: Jay Jones controversy jolts Virginia’s pivotal 2025 elections • Virginia Mercury

What began as a quiet October Friday in Virginia politics erupted into a full-blown national scandal when screenshots of private, three-year old text messages showing Democratic attorney general nominee Jay Jones fantasizing about shooting then-House Speaker Todd Gilbert and his children were...

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[Ezekiel 25:17]

Theres racist asshats on both ends. Whats the point?

 

[Loiosh]

Like I said, never cared for him. I dont think Ive watched an entire episode of anything on Fox news other than Gutfeld for like 15 years. Like I said, I saw clips and whatnot. Somebody might send me a segment they thought I'd like, or something might come up in my feed from The Great Algorithm, and Id check it out. But I just didnt like him.

That's a problem. The formerly most popular figure on cable spins a racist message and is widely praised by white supremacists, and you think it's enough to simply not care for him. He remains an incredibly prominent figure in conservatism and recently spoke at Charlie Kirk's memorial.

This is exactly what Im referring to. Yes, you're right, I DO want a specific definition of Nazism, and will dismiss anything that doesnt fall under that definition, because that how definitions work. When you say Im not playing "that game", "that game" is called "How language works". You're free to argue that what these guys are doing is a dangerous seed, and that dangerous seeds can grow into something far worse. Like, for example, Nazism. Thats fair. But you cant just declare it Nazism and not have a specific definition for what that is and how this behavior falls under the definition. The short of it is, you're doing exactly what Im talking about. Definitions dont really matter, and to me theyre one of the most important things we have. You cant call a knife a spoon and then say theyre both silverware so theyre the same thing.

You can't plant apple seeds and act surprised when you end up with apple trees.

I've explained before how propagandists have carefully tailored their language over the years to enable people like you to defend them by completely ignoring the message by clinging to the literal. I'm not saying "people like you" as an insult, I'm putting you in a group that will only ever see the literal.

I disagree that the literal is the only way that language works. Propagandists avoid the literal at all costs because it removes deniability.

I have no desire to "dismiss as much as possible". The only thing I want is a firm definition, and then excluding anything that doesn't fall under that firm definition as something else. This is not an extreme position by me. Did you ever think maybe you dont want to have a firm definition because you want to include as much as possible? We can back and forth with these games of implying what someone else wants, thinks or intends, but they go nowhere, and theyre usually equally applicable to everyone because theyre so arbitrary that you dont have to actually make a strong argument to support the position, just a vague reference to possibilities or simply claim someone thinks or wants something. I'm guilty of it too, sometimes, sure. But I try to avoid it.

It's not that complicated. If guys talk about loving Hitler, gassing Jews and how black people are monkeys, I'm going to call them Nazis even if they haven't achieved the label.

I dunno why you brought up the neo nazis torching a synagogue a few years ago. That was wrong, I dont think anyone in this thread would support it, and I think the overwhelming majority of conservatives in America would be against it. Do you disagree? Are you saying theyre all conservatives because they torched a synagogue?

Because I'm tired of conservatives minimizing Nazism and suggesting it could never happen in America, the country that inspired much of Nazism.

And yes, they're almost certainly conservative. Not all conservatives are Nazis, but all Nazis are conservative.

Yeah, we've touched on this before. All I can say is, we disagree.

I wonder if there is any amount of evidence that would convince you.

Do you disagree that they gutted the VRA? Do you not think they're about to finish the job? And that it is a conservative SC majority getting it all done?

I think intentions are always relevant. They dont necessarily make the end result better, but theyre always relevant. The guys you posted above that torched the synagogue are much worse than the guys that posted this stuff in a private chat, but it almost feels like you're equating the two things.

If someone acts like a Nazi you call him a Nazi and hope the shame changes his behavior. They don't come out of the womb intending to torch synagogues.

 

[Crazy Source]

Theres racist asshats on both ends. Whats the point?

And it ALL needs to be called out. Why the deflection?

 

[Crazy Source]

“I want to rape her to teach her a lesson”

Explain the joke please.

@White Whale Please explain the humor in this.