‘I couldn’t say no’ - Former UFC champ Andrade ‘hated’ OnlyFans stint, reveals childhood abuse traum

The_Renaissance said:
I don't understand this. This bird is a fucking hard as nails cagefighter who has fought the best in her divisions. Why is she being mentally manipulated by someone? .
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Why are coaches not cage fighters?
Cage fighters are smart ?

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One thing about the rise of Onlyfans and internet pornography, is that a lot of young people do not fully apprehend the long-term consequences of putting such explicit photos or videos of yourself out there on the internet, where they will effectively become immortalised. I was thinking the other day about the percentage of the population who are involved in pornography of one sort or another, say in 2023, as compared to say 2010, 1990, 1960 or so on.

Playboy was founded 1953 and essentially the start of soft pornography, and then one can only imagine the rate has gradually increased from then until when video pornography took off maybe around the 80s it would have increased more rapidly, and then when internet pornography took off, it must have absolutely sky-rocketed. Now more recently add Onlyfans into the mix, and I assume the ratio today would be hundreds if not thousands of times higher than what it was just a few decades ago. Couple this with the fact that young people are impulsive in many ways still naive as to the consequences of their actions, and it's really just a pretty big problem that we are sleepwalking into in my opinion.

An additional factor is that sex work pays many times higher than basically any other job with a commensurate skill requirement, aka, unskilled labor. The hidden cost is to your reputation, dignity, options to engage in stable loving relationships, or so on. True it is that as Andrade makes reference to, it seems like there is a huge correlation between some kind of childhood abuse or broken homes, and people who are led to do sex work or pornography.

In sum, while I think people are responsible for their own actions, cases like Andrade are extremely widespread and I do feel sympathy for those who are sucked into this 'easy money' without realising that long-term it very well may not be worth it for most people. That's my 5c on the issue.
 
Snoowpy said:
Control your emotions and insults.

This is my opinion. You can feel however you like. But I'm not calling you pathetic, twisted by hate and other extreme stuff. Get a grip of yourself lol.

You don't know me and I do not know you. No need for a string of emotional insults for someone you literally do not know that has written a couple of lines of text.

I believe in accountability. If you do not pay your mortgage you're going to get your house taken. If you rob someone, you're going to get jailtime. If you do Onlyfans, most of the times you're going to lose respect.

Are there legit reasons as to why someone would do those things? Yes. However there also are people in the same situations that choose to skip a meal and double down on finding a second job to get paid. So they do not have to rob someone. Others rob for fun.

What I am trying to say is that you're personally accountable for the actions you take. And if you decide to sell your body online, regardless of your situation, you're accountable for the follow up events.

Control your emotions, your post has loads of insults that would get you into trouble in real life.
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You believe so strongly in accountability yet are triggered by someone holding you accountable for your own 'few lines of text'?

Bullshit - hateful nonsense with no regard for the gravity of what being talked about is all it is.

Dont make me laugh with your 'real world' comments - I think you are the one who has to consider how you speak on such serious subjects, outside the walls of Sherdog these kind of edgelord takes often don't go down too well.
 
Kowboy the Konqueror said:
It's easy to judge people on certain topics online. But if you haven't walked in their shoes and life experiences, we really have no idea.

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I haven’t been in her exact shoes but I have an idea. They fucking suck. See I didn’t even have to wear her shoes to understand that fact
 
SharpasaRazor said:
You believe so strongly in accountability yet are triggered by someone holding you accountable for your own 'few lines of text'?
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Going off on somebody disproportionately with whatever colorful insults you can think of because you disagree with their take is not the same as 'holding somebody accountable'.
 
The_Renaissance said:
I don't understand this. This bird is a fucking hard as nails cagefighter who has fought the best in her divisions. Why is she being mentally manipulated by someone? Surely becoming a fucking professional cagefighter destroys most of those feelings of powerlessness from childhood abuse? Just beat the cunt up? If you can't beat the cunt up yourself there's a dozen guys down your gym who like you who'll beat the cunt up for you.
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Ken's Sideburns said:
Your earlier reply when you mentioned if this was a male manipulated into doing OF he would get laughed at. That’s a whole other topic of misandry (opposite of misogyny) where it’s not acceptable yet for men to report domestic abuse. There’s a video of a social experiment where a male gets slapped around and yelled at in public by a girl and no one intervenes, they actually recorded and laughed. Then they flipped the script where it’s the opposite and people intervened in seconds. Is it fair for society to do so? Absolutely not. Has nothing to do with this situation and shouldn’t take anything away from andrade’s story.

your take on accountability. You’re right. Adults must take accountability for their actions. Thats why Andrade is not suing her wife for manipulating her into doing this. That’s why the Manson women killers went to prison and didn’t get off free just because they were manipulated. But keep in mind Charles Manson also was sentenced to life without even laying a finger on anyone. So the justice system also acknowledges his guilt in the manipulation of getting women with past trauma to do whatever he wants, in this case murder.

it doesn’t seem like Andrade is avoiding accountability she’s simply explaining the reason she decided to go down the OF route and the reason why she stopped
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the show you mentioned about the guy getting smacked up in public is What Would You Do?, FYI. Pretty good show; i remember watching it a few years back on ABC.
 
Young Calf Kick said:
To be fair mate I get your perspective but you’re analyzing the situation based on your own character which has probably never experienced real trauma or abuse.

In short: you don’t see the thing(s) as they are, you see them as YOU are.
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I'd never assume someone's lack of anecdotal personal experience dictates whether or not they can empathize with a position
That wouldn't logically make sense. Only with how one feels.
 
Substance Abuse said:
This thread is a shit show. Is normal.
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It's like when you see a thread about a trans athlete in the war room.

As long as you're not taking the posts seriously it's a laugh
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the situation itself is not funny just to be clear only the posts after
 
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It's kinda funny reading the comments. A lot of people didn't even read the first two paragraphs.

Despite the assumptions you make when reading the title, the writer credits Jessica's past experiences as motivation to quit, not to start.

The articles claims "..Andrade says the only reason why she did it was because her partner.."

I think that's more fuel for the posters who bothered by the lack of blame and responsibility on herself.... and it seems like those posters are the same people who don't want to read, before making assumptions.

We all got issues.
 
GearSolidMetal said:
This.

Especially women that were sexual abuse victims. The physical trauma is almost nothing compared to the long-term mental trauma, and it can spread into multiple mental illnesses.

That's one of the reasons I give pornstars a break from judgement.
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I dont watch porn for this exact reason
 
Sebg said:
I understand someone saying that it seems weird to them. However, that does not make your perception of a situation the sum total of human experience and knowledge. Do you actually know anything about what you are talking about? have you formally studied human psychology or psychological trauma?
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Formally studying psychology and psychological trauma is a good way to become.an absolute dipshit. It's pseudo science. You do not need your head filled with years of half truths to understand human nature and feel empathy.
 
Starman said:
The 21st Century has seen an explosion in wound collectors. I don’t doubt she went through tough times in her life, but eventually people need to deal with their issues in private and move on, rather than use them as a crutch (or cudgel, in some cases) to escape responsibility and accountability.
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Im guilty of it... Realized it was only holding me back. Women rarely do this it seems.
 
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SharpasaRazor said:
You believe so strongly in accountability yet are triggered by someone holding you accountable for your own 'few lines of text'?

Bullshit - hateful nonsense with no regard for the gravity of what being talked about is all it is.

Dont make me laugh with your 'real world' comments - I think you are the one who has to consider how you speak on such serious subjects, outside the walls of Sherdog these kind of edgelord takes often don't go down too well.
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I can feel your rage. I will repeat it once more: Control your emotions.

I'm not triggered in the slightest. And I haven't insulted you personally. Meanwhile you break every rule of a debate from the get go.
 
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