Why are we so soft on employers who hire illegals?

[JSN]

I feel like maybe this is just the nature of the beast, but we sure are hard on law abiding, educated folks here and soft on people who don't bring much to the table.

It's hard as fuck to get a work visa for people who are fully capable of positive contributions to our postindustrial economy but if you are going to be working in a bakery it's seemingly quite easy to illegally work.

Same with crimes. You can get charged with carrying a switchblade in places like NYC for having a swiss army knife and have a weapons charge on your record which can pretty much destroy your professional career, but if you beat someone in the head with a fucking baseball bat while robbing them as a repeat offender, half the time you're sentenced to community service and it sure as hell isn't going to destroy your career as a shitbag.

 

[Lead]

Democrats want to fight for protections of illegals trying to work here and Republicans want to enable companies to have cheap labor. Neither party has truly been against this issue. It's like the balanced budget issue. Each party takes a side but the ultimate result remains the same regardless of who is in power.

 

[JSN]

Democrats want to fight for protections of illegals trying to work here and Republicans want to enable companies to have cheap labor. Neither party has truly been against this issue. It's like the balanced budget issue. Each party takes a side but the ultimate result remains the same regardless of who is in power.

It's still mindbottling to that people are so unsophisticated that they continue to fall for the wall ruse. Great spend billion on a physical wall when boats, semi's, and travel visas exist. It's not like Mexicans are flipping horse archers.

 

[Lead]

It's still mindbottling to that people are so unsophisticated that they continue to fall for the wall ruse. Great spend billion on a physical wall when boats, semi's, and travel visas exist. It's not like Mexicans are flipping horse archers.

Overstay with visas are the most common way illegals get here too. The narrative in the primaries and election was disappointing. When you look at polling, the majority of people actually do want eventual amnesty for people here and there are just some who want additional security for handling future situations but that isn't as easy as a wall, etc. It should've been way less of an issue in 2016 imo. Politics gets really weird imo between what people believe and what they support/do.

 

[no fat chicks]

I just wish politicians could speak up about it more

 

[Madmick]

We go after innocent people filling jobs. While we ignore the job creators who willingly hire them.

Why is this never discussed around here?

For the same reason that people who think along partisan lines tend to favor one side or the other of the drug war. It's asinine.

You can obsess over the demand, you can obsess over the supply, but in the end, it doesn't matter, because the "problem" is that there is a market in the first place.

 

[peytonlucy]

it's not the giant retail stores/ businesses that hire illegals. It's mostly the small mom & mom's stores/business that hire illegal workers.

Giant retail stores like Walmart or Target don't need to hire illegal workers when they can set up sweat factories in Vietnam or Pakistan or some other undeveloped countries and hire locals to work for 5 cents an hour.

Actually, what Walmart has done is hire companies that work almost exclusively for Walmart and those companies hire the illegals. Which Presidential candidate in 2016 was a former member of the board of Walmart?