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Sean Sherk
These guys not beign in the HOF makes it a joke. Meanwhile, Charles Lewis is in, because of Tapout. Nothin against the Mask, but it's a shame.Overdue: Marco Ruas, Frank Shamrock, Oleg Taktarov, Rich Franklin, Jens Pulver...
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Artem Lobov
Maurice was a pivotal figure back then, more than his fights.As much as I like Ruas, he is less deserving than anyone currently in there, even Maurice Smith.
Really though, the UFC Hall of Fame is a freaking shit show. The induction of Maurice Smith (who I like) basically means any champion or serious contender merits automatic inclusion, using that criteria.
And the absence of Frank Shamrock is beyond laughable.
Maurice was a pivotal figure back then, more than his fights.
I'm aware.
But if you induct him, then you automatically have to induct Kevin Randleman, Pedro Rizzo, Oleg Taktarov, Ricco Rodriguez, etc.
Now, some of those merit inclusion anyways, but the point is any notable, significant heavyweight back then gets in if Maurice Smith does.
if it was an MMA HOF, I would be ok. They did help fighters, so I guess. other sports HOF's have coaches, announcers, etc. TapOut was iconic in the time. I don't know, it's like you said though, $$$ and probably who they like.in a place where a clothing manufacturer was allowed to be voted in, I don't think it is a serious nor prestigious place to be.
it only means "it made us money".
I'm aware.
But if you induct him, then you automatically have to induct Kevin Randleman, Pedro Rizzo, Oleg Taktarov, Ricco Rodriguez, etc.
Now, some of those merit inclusion anyways, but the point is any notable, significant heavyweight back then gets in if Maurice Smith does.
Most annoyingly, you could even make a decent case for Pete Williams. Certainly, he beat Mark Coleman more convincingly, had the better record, better overall career, and was a better overall fighter during his peak. Sure, Maurice Smith had more influence on the evolution of fighting styles, but if that's our criteria, then we should induct Igor Zinoviev and Yves Edwards, two fighters that will likely never get in.
IMO the Hall of Fame should be for the best of the best. Mo Smith was a solid fighter but he is more of a Hall of the Very Good type guy for me.
Frank Shamrock
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Rich Franklin
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Bj penn
"then you automatically have to induct Kevin Randleman, Pedro Rizzo, Oleg Taktarov, Ricco Rodriguez," . I see nothing wrong with this .I'm aware.
But if you induct him, then you automatically have to induct Kevin Randleman, Pedro Rizzo, Oleg Taktarov, Ricco Rodriguez, etc.
Now, some of those merit inclusion anyways, but the point is any notable, significant heavyweight back then gets in if Maurice Smith does.
Most annoyingly, you could even make a decent case for Pete Williams. Certainly, he beat Mark Coleman more convincingly, had the better record, better overall career, and was a better overall fighter during his peak. Sure, Maurice Smith had more influence on the evolution of fighting styles, but if that's our criteria, then we should induct Igor Zinoviev and Yves Edwards, two fighters that will likely never get in.
Good shout, guy has an amazing record, only losses to GSP, Hughes, Penn and Fredgar (all in their prime).Sean Sherk
As much as I like Ruas, he is less deserving than anyone currently in there, even Maurice Smith.
Really though, the UFC Hall of Fame is a freaking shit show. The induction of Maurice Smith (who I like) basically means any champion or serious contender merits automatic inclusion, using that criteria.
And the absence of Frank Shamrock is beyond laughable.
This guy.
Plus the guy smoking a J right behind him.