what's wrong with socialism?

[Jack V Savage]

I do agree that there does seem to be some kind of issue in the economy where wages aren't rising commensurate with productivity, and I think that probably has to do with the Federal Reserve system. Ron Paul was really the only politician who wanted to tackle that issue, and he was hounded out of consideration for the Presidency by nearly everyone on both sides of the aisle.

WTF? Paul was fighting to redistribute to the wealthy, and the Fed point makes no sense. Are you just talking about they've prioritized low inflation over low unemployment?

 

[InternetHero]

Sounds logical. i can support that. Isn't it alealdy like that now?

I think we are losing the republic as the people lose the sense responsibility that was the cornerstone of ancient knowledge, and in the face of technocratic governance as the rulers want to guide the people further towards their ends. (Always.)

The modern republic is fairly recent in history and always under threat from oligarchy / technocratic rule.

 

[RockstarChris]

i say we elect a new God Lord Emperor and make the first Galactic Empire. But im a man of extremes.

 

[Wingslaught]

WTF? Paul was fighting to redistribute to the wealthy, and the Fed point makes no sense. Are you just talking about they've prioritized low inflation over low unemployment?

Well, how do you explain why wages are stagnant at the same time that productivity has been rising?

 

[Jack V Savage]

Well, how do you explain why wages are stagnant at the same time that productivity has been rising?

Productivity growth has been slow this century, but:

Declining union membership
Reagan-era tax changes
China shock
Further regressive changes to taxation under W and Trump

Generally capital income is responsible rather than wage inequality. Housing costs rising is probably another big factor. Tighter money, which the Pauls want, would exacerbate the problem. As would their tax changes.

 

[Trotsky]

WTF? Paul was fighting to redistribute to the wealthy, and the Fed point makes no sense. Are you just talking about they've prioritized low inflation over low unemployment?

lol @ wage stagnation being due to the fucking Federal Reserve. That's in the WR HOF of wonky conclusions to jump to.

 

[Prutfis]

i say we elect a new God Lord Emperor and make the first Galactic Empire. But im a man of extremes.

A quick Butlerian Jihad where thinking machines = Politicians.

 

[Possum Jenkins]

Wouldn't the fact that these artists could earn different amount of money mean that there are still classes?

And what happens with artists who don't earn enough because nobody wants to buy their art?

It'd be no different than any sort of companies of vastly different sizes. A, say, pharmaceutical company of 50 employees vs one with 5,000. Earnings might just have to be standardized throughout.

There may have to be some sort of artists' guild that they all belong to and that subsidizes both popular and less popular acts.

 

[RubberGuard5]

It'd be no different than any sort of companies of vastly different sizes. A, say, pharmaceutical company of 50 employees vs one with 5,000. Earnings might just have to be standardized throughout.

There may have to be some sort of artists' guild that they all belong to and that subsidizes both popular and less popular acts.

So, workers' income wouldn't depend on company's performance? How does that function? What happens when a company underperforms and can't pay the workers according to the standard? What does the rival company do with the profits if not spread it to the workers?

 

[Possum Jenkins]

So, workers' income wouldn't depend on company's performance? How does that function? What happens when a company underperforms and can't pay the workers according to the standard? What does the rival company do with the profits if not spread it to the workers?

Of course it wouldn't depend on company performance. If it did, you'd have a wide range of incomes which would create classes.

Pooling up all income and dividing it according to size would probably be the best solution. Underperforming companies would get disciplined the way chapters of nonprofits get disciplined by the national board.

 

[RubberGuard5]

Of course it wouldn't depend on company performance. If it did, you'd have a wide range of incomes which would create classes.

Pooling up all income and dividing it according to size would probably be the best solution. Underperforming companies would get disciplined the way chapters of nonprofits get disciplined by the national board.

Wouldn't all of that neccessitate the existance of powerful government? How would we prevent USSR from happening again?

 

[Possum Jenkins]

Wouldn't all of that neccessitate the existance of powerful government? How would we prevent USSR from happening again?

Well yeah, if you want to go from the current system to a classless one in a year or two. But no one's pushing for that.

A classless, anarchist society should be the result of an organic and gradual movement in that direction. Anarchist Catalonia came about after decades and decades of worker's movements.