What is the problem with globalization?

[Sir Galahad]

I see a lot of people really against it, why? What exactly would be the problem with the entire human species coming together and working as one?

It's impossible with the difference of religious ideology.

 

[HomerThompson]

Again, where those things present in China before globalization? was Chinese suicide rate lower? standard of living higher?

Suicide? I'm sure. That's about as terrible an argument as you could possibly make, and you're smart enough to know that. I've fleshed out my problems with globalization now, and you're not addressing them and deflecting to area where you think you have a stronger argument. Boring.

 

[MusterX]

FYI, the Constitution defines treason very clearly:



Note the "only," which is very important. Wanting people in other countries to have their rights protected is not treason. And "treason" according to a looser, more colloquial definition is not punishable by death.

Working to undermine the sovereignty of the U.S. is treason. You would find out quickly that it would be viewed as such if our government did anything that didn't hold the Constitution as the highest law of the land. Having American citizens answer to an international government system would cause another civil war. It is 100% treason.

 

[Dolomite]

What exactly would be the problem with the entire human species coming together and working as one?

Where's the profit in that?

 

[Ichibanner]

I see a lot of people really against it, why? What exactly would be the problem with the entire human species coming together and working as one?

There's no problem with your magical / mythical ideal. None whatsoever. However, reality teaches us that humans are most comfortable around humans who look like, talk like, and act like ourselves. We prove that Socialism can't work by our greed and hatred towards our fellow man. We have the idea that those who do not have our IQ, drive to succeed, language skills, or disposition towards authority cannot be our equals. It's human nature. If my hometown is great for me and mine I have zero want to bring in people with ideals 180 degrees out from myself and fellow townsfolk. Also, I travel to see other cultures. I don't want a watered down culture making concessions to those who have settled in the land in the last century. Imagine visiting the Louvre and seeing the famous Greek sculpture Venus De Milo covered in a Burkha.

 

[Rod1]

Suicide? I'm sure. That's about as terrible an argument as you could possibly make, and you're smart enough to know that. I've fleshed out my problems with globalization now, and you're not addressing them and deflecting to area where you think you have a stronger argument. Boring.

Im deflecting? you pointed out suicide nets in a factory to show the problems with globalization, as if people working in factories were forced to work there. It shows more as a problem of east asian culture in general more than globalization.

 

[Rod1]

Law of averages bro.

If you have 9 places to live, (Really a lot more than that, but lets generalize).. and grade them on 1 being total shit, and 5 being pretty much as good as possible for the current time...

North America 5
Western Europe 5
Eastern Europe 3
Middle East and North Africa 1
Rest of Africa 1
North Korea 0
China 2
Rest of Asia 4
South America 2


Average of everywhere together = 2.3
Average of everywhere without U.S./Western Europe/Canada 1.85


Now, why the fuck would you want to live in a 2.3 society when you can live in a 4.0 or 5.0 society?

Math bro.

Because these societies are not evenly distributed.

China has 1300 billion people their top 20% is far wealthier than the lower 20% of the US, why would a top 20% chinese want to move to be part of the lower 20% american?

Plus a lot of people kind of like their own countries.

 

[trident]

Oh fuck off.

Lazy

 

[trident]

Alex Jones.

Hardly, though he pushes it, the ground work has been done by a generation of organizations interpreting these trade agreements.

It's a scam to further stovepipe resources out of he majority's hands and into off shore entities accountable to no one.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Working to undermine the sovereignty of the U.S. is treason. You would find out quickly that it would be viewed as such if our government did anything that didn't hold the Constitution as the highest law of the land. Having American citizens answer to an international government system would cause another civil war. It is 100% treason.

Ah, yes. I forgot that the Constitution is irrelevant, and the ravings of Internet lunatics who fantastize about murdering people who disagree with them are all-important.

 

[MeatheadMike]

6 pages and we haven't yet heard from @IDL

Is he ok?

 

[MusterX]

Ah, yes. I forgot that the Constitution is irrelevant, and the ravings of Internet lunatics who fantastize about murdering people who disagree with them are all-important.

I have no idea wtf you are babbling on about. If the U.S. tried to cede its sovereignty to an international government, like the U.N. it would result in a bloodbath. That isn't fantasy, its reality.

 

[m52nickerson]

I have no idea wtf you are babbling on about. If the U.S. tried to cede its sovereignty to an international government, like the U.N. it would result in a bloodbath. That isn't fantasy, its reality.

You do know that the US has signed onto more then a couple of international treaties, that have become the law of the land and we have not had a civil war.

 

[MusterX]

You do know that the US has signed onto more then a couple of international treaties, that have become the law of the land and we have not had a civil war.

Yea but that isn't what I'm referring to. If the world decided to make the U.N. the world government and it had control of all nations then you would see the shit hit the fan like never before.

 

[Greoric]

Very simply, the more localized the decision making process the more effective decisions are made. The proposal for globalism is the opposite of that understanding.

 

[IIIIIIII]

I see a lot of people really against it, why? What exactly would be the problem with the entire human species coming together and working as one?

because i have fuck-all to do with some random person in rural china. we're all different, and are better governed as locally as we can be, where there are people who understand our points of view and wants/needs better than someone across the globe.

 

[m52nickerson]

Yea but that isn't what I'm referring to. If the world decided to make the U.N. the world government and it had control of all nations then you would see the shit hit the fan like never before.

Perhaps. However someone in the US advocating in joining that government would not be committing treason.

 

[Bay Area]

This is basically it. I know my job cant be outsourced ( in manufacturing even!) so globalization is great for me. Drives down prices and makes my life great. People who cant compete with 3rd world labor cry when they lose their jobs. I dont feel bad for them.

Well good for you, however there are millions of Americans who have jobs that can. And Americans shouldn't have to compete with 3rd world labor. That's the point.

 

[Rod1]

Hardly, though he pushes it, the ground work has been done by a generation of organizations interpreting these trade agreements.

It's a scam to further stovepipe resources out of he majority's hands and into off shore entities accountable to no one.

You mean like it has always been done since the dawn of civilization? maybe if the general population were less focused on abstract boogeymen and held their immediate rulers accountable.

 

[HomerThompson]

6 pages and we haven't yet heard from @IDL

Is he ok?

Psychic vampires.