What Do Righties Want to DO About Islam?

[Renard]

The left has become so extreme that if you are a sensible classic liberal, you're now dubbed a right winger.

The US is in a good position, but for Europe the real problem is mentality. Mentality -> policy. Until the mindset of the population is re-established to something healthier, policy won't come. But if it did:

1) Stop accepting refugee applications
2) Crack down on imams preaching hate
3) Place restrictions on where refugees can resettle so ghettoization doesn't occur (disperse them)
4) Attempt to break out current ghettos/parallel societies, for instance by spreading out government housing
5) Crack down on Islamic schools/education and force to follow secular guidelines and monitor their activities (no brainwashing)
6) Start working on Islam reformation
6) Put in place efforts to assimilate the current Muslim population so they adopt the values and ethnics of the host country

 

[GORETAURO]

Everytime there is an Islamic terrorist attack right wingers line up.

Fist they bash Islam with all the "Religion of peace" stuff and Koran verses about violence, etc.

Then they bash liberals for being soft, or feeble-minded or Islamic apologists, or whatever.

But beyond the groupthink and the conservative virtue signaling that bashing your "enemies" affords, what do you actually propose should be done about Islam??

Here are some policy options:
1) Forced deportation of all Muslims living in western countries to... I dunno, where?
2) Forced conversion of all Muslims via an Inquisition.
3) Islamic genocide within western countries.
4) World War 3: The West vs. The Caliphate (kill or covert to native population)
5) Other

Besides bashing liberals, what do you all actually propose is DONE about Muslims?

1) Separation
2) war until one side is defeated for all time
3) bow down to islam

 

[HomerThompson]

What we actually need to do is fully normalize relations with Iran and tell Israel and Saudi Arabia to stuff it. No more propping up dictators, no more putting narrow economic interests first. Pull our boys out of the sandbox and make it clear that we won't tolerate aggression towards Iran from SA/Israel.

No nukes for Iran as part of the deal. Funnel hundreds of billions of dollars into alternative energy infrastructure and research. Fund huge NGO educational campaigns all over the ME. Instead of protecting shitty arab dictators and shit stain monarchies, use our military to protect the NGO educational initiatives. Western secular education. Money to nonreligious aid organizations in the countries.

Finally, force Israel to the table and redraw the lines for Israel/Palestine. Immediately recognize a state of Palestine and insist on a roughly 50/50 land split of the original British Mandate of Palestine. No aggression will be allowed at all. Let's actually put our military and economic power to use for the good of the region, and the globe.

We could completely marginalize the Wahhabist/Salafist version of Islam, and neuter the Sunnis. Make it clear we want equal rights for women in those nations and really change the global dynamics of violence.

Of course, this would involve clipping the MIC's balls, along with oil interests and a lot of very rich and powerful people. Doable if we had any real leadership in this country that wasn't beholden to the money/power of the current worldwide corporate economic structure.

 

[RockstarChris]

The Pope needs to announce a new official Holy Crusade. We haven't had a good Holy Crusade in quite a long time.

 

[Gutter Chris]

@HomerThompson

Are you ever afraid to share an opinion as a liberal ? Im feeling extremely conflicted about how to answer this question

 

[Big Nasty Edison]

Everytime there is an Islamic terrorist attack right wingers line up.

Fist they bash Islam with all the "Religion of peace" stuff and Koran verses about violence, etc.

Then they bash liberals for being soft, or feeble-minded or Islamic apologists, or whatever.

But beyond the groupthink and the conservative virtue signaling that bashing your "enemies" affords, what do you actually propose should be done about Islam??

Here are some policy options:
1) Forced deportation of all Muslims living in western countries to... I dunno, where?
2) Forced conversion of all Muslims via an Inquisition.
3) Islamic genocide within western countries.
4) World War 3: The West vs. The Caliphate (kill or covert to native population)
5) Other

Besides bashing liberals, what do you all actually propose is DONE about Muslims?

They wanna nuke em

 

[HomerThompson]

@HomerThompson

Are you ever afraid to share an opinion as a liberal ? Im feeling extremely conflicted about how to answer this question

No, I left that behind long ago. Share away. Just pepper your angus.

 

[Bargey]

So many who just straight up want to end religious freedom. Hilarious.

I think it's been pointed out previously in other threads that Islam doesn't operate as a religion but rather as a political and social ideology.

But let's go with the status quo that it is - even then: monitoring mosques and possibly bulldozing them, limiting Muslim immigrants and refugees and deportations aren't an infringement on religious freedoms but rather targeted (and may I say necessary) proactive security measures. If a Muslim wants to worship but other than that not seek to make his religion any part of the wider society he/she is in, then nobody should have a problem with that.

 

[Fawlty]

I think it's been pointed out previously in other threads that Islam doesn't operate as a religion but rather as a political and social ideology.

So does Christianity. I'm okay with the government making sure mosques aren't churning out terrorists though.

 

[Bargey]

So does Christianity. I'm okay with the government making sure mosques aren't churning out terrorists though.

Really? Can you name one majority Christian country where the Bible is the law of the land or supersedes the Constitution / law of the land?

 

[Gutter Chris]

No, I left that behind long ago. Share away. Just pepper your angus.

Oh boy


I think the stakes are too high and every day takes us closer to a catastrophe . Im aware not every muslim is a terrorists but I am also aware that they are out there and we see it almost daily.

It doesnt really matter at this point if its the US fault ,world war 2s fault, Israels fault, bush and obama ,liberals silencing any talk about reform with cries or racism, the cia in the 50s or any other thing you can think of. Theres a monster out there and who created it at this point is much less important than eliminating that threat before it is to late.

A poster not to long ago in mayberry was talking about Indians and little bighorn ...... and it hit me and it goes against every value I hold. The cure to Islam is the same thing we used to destroy the Indians. Take their lands ban their customs destroy everything about their way of life and leave whos left on reservations to be drunk and run a casino .

Each day I become more afraid that we are going to see a massive attack that involves something we had no idea that they had manufactured or acquired . I think at this point either islam needs to heel or it needs to go.


Im really not proud of that but I am afraid of where things are going to end up .

And the assault should start right at the root of the problem. Those fucking Saudi Arabians .

 

[Fawlty]

Really? Can you name one majority Christian country where the Bible is the law of the land or supersedes the Constitution / law of the land?

That's not the definition of political/social ideology. I'm not contesting the fact that sharia is illegitimate in a secular nation. That's self-evident.

 

[Graves The Elder]

mandate all religions establish a baseball team.
then we'll see who's superior.

 

[HomerThompson]

mandate all religions establish a baseball team.
then we'll see who's superior.

They'll all die of boredom. Then we can move forward with this human experiment.

 

[Fawlty]

mandate all religions establish a baseball team.
then we'll see who's superior.

We'll all be praying to Jobu and missing curveballs. Thanks for dooming us to voodoo.

 

[TheLegend27]

What righties want to about every issue they oppose... cry and whine.

 

[Bargey]

That's not the definition of political/social ideology. I'm not contesting the fact that sharia is illegitimate in a secular nation. That's self-evident.

I'm saying that Islam as practiced in Muslim countries is not just a religion but an all encompassing political, social and moral code that obliterates all other codes in existence; it attaches itself to the existing law of the land like a parasite and destroys it from within or otherwise just crushes it totally.

Sharia is Muslim. To be a Muslim is to want Sharia and this is evident in the countries with Muslim majorities. That's why I can't describe it as a religion. You know what I mean

 

[Toastytoy]

Don't accept people from shithead countries. I don't like it but it's gotta be done

 

[Konster]

Just like in the last thread.

So far the most effective way that I know of, it's very simple with a very high success rate.

If a Muslim commits an act of terror and survives you kill him. Then you do a full investigation on their family, if any of them are in on it then they die, no prison time. Demolish their entire families' house. Been working in Uzbekistan for decades. It would cause more of an uproar in Europe or America since they are both considered white countries, Muslims killing other Muslims isn't as frowned upon. I think this is the best solution, it will take time though.

 

[Thurisaz]

Everytime there is an Islamic terrorist attack right wingers line up.

Yeah, we have a habit of pointing out those terrorist attacks would never have happened if the govt listened to us.

Fist they bash Islam with all the "Religion of peace" stuff and Koran verses about violence, etc.

There's absolutely no need for that. When someone spouts something about "not all Muslims are like that", they're trying to sell snake oil. When they're not honest, there's no room for honest discussion.

Then they bash liberals for being soft, or feeble-minded or Islamic apologists, or whatever.

We bash the liberal governments for not doing their most important job, that is, protect their citizens from foreign aggression.

But beyond the groupthink and the conservative virtue signaling that bashing your "enemies" affords, what do you actually propose should be done about Islam??

Throw them out and keep them out.

Here are some policy options:
1) Forced deportation of all Muslims living in western countries to... I dunno, where?

Where they're from. If the country doesn't accept them back, we don't need to land to return them. If they want parachutes they can buy them.

2) Forced conversion of all Muslims via an Inquisition.

Thanks to taqiyya there's no way to reliably achieve that, so no.

3) Islamic genocide within western countries.

That's the alternative to sending them home. I think the latter is better, but the longer govts tarry, the closer we get to the former.

4) World War 3: The West vs. The Caliphate (kill or covert to native population)

We have no business going over there.

Besides bashing liberals, what do you all actually propose is DONE about Muslims?

Throw them out and keep them out.