Trump Admin orders CEA to cook the books...

[Rod1]

The washing post and ny times "confirmed" this story through cea yet no names have been mentioned. "Trumps transition team". Why dont these people ever give actual names?

Who from the trump transition team ordered it? Who from CEA dealt with that order?

I just dont believe it with zero evidence, especially when we know how corrupt the media is. Sounds like another hit piece. They never give any verifiable details.

Want to bet your sig for a month on Trump increasing the deficit?

Republicans being called the party of fiscal responsibility is rich as fuck.

 

[cooks1]

You cant hide behind anonimity when making these kinds of claims. If this really did happen then why cant we get the name of the person from the Trump transition team who ordered it, at the very least?

Have you ever suspected that maybe they dont give names because it never happened?

You still take the medias word as proof positive, despite the obvious collusion and political motivations?

Sorry but I dont. Its not a way for me to discredit news I dont like. If Trump does something I disagree with, Ill be the first one to say something, but show me proof.

Do you think its fair that they can hide behind anonimity so none of the stories can ever be truly verified by independant reporters?

The medias word is not good enough. Proof MUST be provided.

Well, 'Many People are saying' seems to work pretty well for Trump when he spouts out all his outrageous fallacies.

All kidding aside, I agree. Some specifics would be nice.

 

[cooks1]

I havent see the numbers -- thus far he has apparently done more cutting than spending (not to say spending is not on the horizon)

What's he cut?

 

[Bunk Moreland]

I like cutting taxes and limiting spending as well. But Trump does not have that plan. He plans to cut taxes while increasing spending dramatically with military buildup and a trillion $ infrastructure program. He does not deny it. He has said it many times. If Republicans manage to allow this, the deficit will balloon, and the income disparity at the end of his term will make the current disparity look like communism by comparison.

As for the specific allegations here, I'd like to know who specifically told the CEA to do this. This does not strike me as classified information. Who told them to do it and what specifically did they say? Seems like a reasonable thing to report.

Yeah I'm not really sure where he's gonna get this workforce for these extravagant spending projects. The US is already near full employment and spending to expand the economy isn't the answer.

Maybe this new immigration order he's coming out with is to allow immigrants to come in and have these extravigent spending/infrastructure jobs lol.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

What's he cut?

International donations to female reproductive health, planning to cut on public broadcasting, NEA

Heres the proposed list thus far

http://time.com/money/4639544/trump-nea-sesame-street-budget-cut/

 

[cooks1]

Not really. People don't leak with their names attached, but reporters and editors know their identities and their reputations are on the line. Protected sources are as old as journalism itself. Expecting name attribution is just a way to discredit any news you don't like. Trump's official responses have named attached and they lie.

They don't need to name their source. But they do need to name the person in the Trump administration who ordered the CEA to do this. And some proof that they did it like a email or phone transcript would also be nice.

 

[Big Nasty Edison]

What is the defense for cutting programs like these?????

Office of Violence Against Women

• Budget: $480 million
• Cost per American: $1.48

The OVW runs 25 grant programs created through the 1994 Violence Against Women Act, in an effort to reduce domestic violence, sexual assault and dating violence. The police department and city government of Andalusia, Ala., for instance, received a $450,000 grant over three years that will cover domestic violence training for officers as well as the hiring of three additional police officers.

Civil Rights Division of the Justice Department

• Budget: $156 million
• Cost per American: $0.48

The Civil Rights Division, a part of the Justice Department that employs 750 positions, works to fight discrimination and protect Americans' voting rights. Recently a Civil Rights Division investigation of the Chicago Police Department found that "CPD officers’ practices unnecessarily endanger themselves and result in unnecessary and avoidable uses of force." The city of Chicago and the Justice Department reached an agreement to improve the city's policing practices.

 

[HomeCheese]

...The party of "fiscal responsibility" and "deficit reduction" will now blow up the deficit...

This is something that is lost on many people, used to be the GOP was all about a balanced budget and lowering government spending. Now they seem to enact policy's that feather their own nest in some way, shape or form.

The way PapaHair is manipulating the growth projection reminds me of how he grossly over projected earnings on the casinos in Atlantic City which I believe ended in bankruptcy.

 

[klnOmega]

What is the defense for cutting programs like these?????

Office of Violence Against Women

• Budget: $480 million
• Cost per American: $1.48

The OVW runs 25 grant programs created through the 1994 Violence Against Women Act, in an effort to reduce domestic violence, sexual assault and dating violence. The police department and city government of Andalusia, Ala., for instance, received a $450,000 grant over three years that will cover domestic violence training for officers as well as the hiring of three additional police officers.

Civil Rights Division of the Justice Department

• Budget: $156 million
• Cost per American: $0.48

The Civil Rights Division, a part of the Justice Department that employs 750 positions, works to fight discrimination and protect Americans' voting rights. Recently a Civil Rights Division investigation of the Chicago Police Department found that "CPD officers’ practices unnecessarily endanger themselves and result in unnecessary and avoidable uses of force." The city of Chicago and the Justice Department reached an agreement to improve the city's policing practices.

Looks like the federal government is spending $600 million on things that should be handled at the state level in just those two program alone.

 

[TheStruggle]

You ever notice that all of these stories that the WP and NYT put out to damage Trump never have a reliable source to confirm the story but at this point, these people only want to hear anything that will damage the president whether it's true or now.

 

[kpt018]

This is something that is lost on many people, used to be the GOP was all about a balanced budget and lowering government spending. Now they seem to enact policy's that feather their own nest in some way, shape or form.

The way PapaHair is manipulating the growth projection reminds me of how he grossly over projected earnings on the casinos in Atlantic City which I believe ended in bankruptcy.

Yeah, Trump is a career conman. Banks in the US won't even lend to him, and we are talking about a billionaire, which says a lot.

I think Republicans have been fake deficit hawks. If it comes to providing a safety net, health care, spending on the environment, etc. then they're the party of fiscal responsibility. When it comes to tax cuts for top earners, military spending, etc. then all of a sudden they're like teenage girls shopping for the first time with their new Amex card with no credit limit.

 

[cooks1]

International donations to female reproductive health, planning to cut on public broadcasting, NEA

Heres the proposed list thus far

http://time.com/money/4639544/trump-nea-sesame-street-budget-cut/

LOL. This is NOT cutting spending. Even if he managed to completely close down 100% of these programs, which will never happen, he will have cut Federal spending by 2/10 of 1% or .002% . And that is assuming he does not spend one extra penny on anything else.

66% of the nations Budget is spend on Military (16%) SS (24%) Medicare (17%) and Medicaid (9%).
You can 't cut spending in the US meaningfully without addressing these things. Military spending in the US is over 50% of ALL discretionary spending. That's right, more than all other discretionary spending combined.

And here is the real kicker: Almost 18% of the entire US GDP is on healthcare. You read that right.

WAYYYYY MORE than anywhere else. Anywhere. Even places with highly effective socialized models.

You will not make a dent in spending without dealing with Military spending, SS/Medicare/Medicaid and healthcare costs in general in a meaningful way. You just won't.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

LOL. This is NOT cutting spending. Even if he managed to completely close down 100% of these programs, which will never happen, he will have cut Federal spending by 2/10 of 1% or .002% . And that is assuming he does not spend one extra penny on anything else.

66% of the nations Budget is spend on Military (16%) SS (24%) Medicare (17%) and Medicaid (9%).
You can 't cut spending in the US meaningfully without addressing these things. Military spending in the US is over 50% of ALL discretionary spending. That's right, more than all other discretionary spending combined.

And here is the real kicker: Almost 18% of the entire US GDP is on healthcare. You read that right.

WAYYYYY MORE than anywhere else. Anywhere. Even places with highly effective socialized models.

You will not make a dent in spending without dealing with Military spending, SS/Medicare/Medicaid and healthcare costs in general in a meaningful way. You just won't.

Did i say drastic cuts to spending? I said thus far his announced initiatives have been more to program cuts than to add on's.

 

[cooks1]

Did i say drastic cuts to spending? I said thus far his announced initiatives have been more to program cuts than to add on's.

The costs of building the wall alone are more than all of these cuts combined.

 

[TheStruggle]

The costs of building the wall alone are more than all of these cuts combined.

Let's cut all federal aid to every country...every single one. Yay or Nay?

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

The costs of building the wall alone are more than all of these cuts combined.

Not if you add in his proposed to cut to global warming initiatives


Donald Trump to sign executive order to dramatically reduce funding of United Nations

Trump Says Plan to End Climate Spending Would Save $100B

I agree that overall his rhetoric seems to be geared toward blowing up the deficit -- however, as of today, in actual announced plans -- there has been more cuts than spending. Whether that will last is doubtful.

 

[cooks1]

Let's cut all federal aid to every country...every single one. Yay or Nay?

Fine by me. 85% of our Federal Aid goes to Afghanistan, Israel, Egypt, Jordan, West Bank/Ghaza, Ethiopia, South Sudan, Malawi, Uganda, South Africa, Nigeria, and -LOL- Russia.

 

[IppoMakanuchi]

Scumbag motherfucker in chief is mad reality doesn't bend to his will.

 

[weed]

in before "fake news", "#maga", "she lost get over it" and "but obama . . ."

#fakepost

 

[TheStruggle]

Fine by me. 85% of our Federal Aid goes to Afghanistan, Israel, Egypt, Jordan, West Bank/Ghaza, Ethiopia, South Sudan, Malawi, Uganda, South Africa, Nigeria, and -LOL- Russia.

43 Billion a year in foreign aid, a complete waste