Media Rogan claimed Ronda could beat "50 % of male bw" - Masvidal reality checks

[Westbrick]

Joe Rogan is what stupid people think smart people sound like.

Moicano just said Rogan is the smartest mf ever

lol

 

[Clark Rogers]

It wasn't like the UFC told him to talk about Rousey like this and he simply complied. He himself bought into all the hype and was mesmerized by Rousey. He's an overly emotional guy, in particular with certain female fighters I think. He also cried on his podcast when he was talking about rose namajunas. The guy is a dork to the max degree

And his unloading Schaub on the rest of us is still the worst he's done.

Deal with it.

 

[Huligani]

Mas is right. First girl I rolled with was a purple belt with a pro MMA record. She tried out for TUF and everything. I was told as a white belt to “use my technique” and “don’t use your strength”. I’m not a typical sherdogger, either. Hope I don’t get ban hammered for admitting this, but I’m like 5’10 and 165.

Now imagine if you were a typical sherdogger.

 

[jeskola]

What year is it

 

[Pequeño Corey]

Now imagine if you were a typical sherdogger.

I imagine every day what it would be like to view the world through the eyes of a male specimen, or at the very least, a non-manlet. Sadly, I’ve learned to live with being a forever beta in most situations, and banging 6’s and 7’s really ain’t all that bad once you accept your lot in life.

 

[moreorless87]

I think actually Rousey would probably have been one of the best bets for winning intergender matches. Maybe not the best female MMA fighter ever BUT the stuff she did well was I think more likely to win fights, the standard of sub fighting in womens MMA is significantly higher than striking relative to the mens sport IMHO and an ultra aggressive armbar has decent upset potential.

 

[Brigfa2]

Rogan has a way of coming up short in everything he says. He is small minded. His appeal is miniscule in terms of people that don't think with their small head. He is dwarfed by better podcasts and personalities. His brain is rather squatty and miniature. His perspective is teeny tiny and little.

What's sad is he would kill Bruce Lee in a fight

 

[orca]

bradley martin vs ronda i wanna see that haha

 

[paulchozick]

Joe Rogan is what stupid people think smart people sound like.

.

 

[Cooliox]

Rogan is a no talent ass clown who gets a pass due to his rolodex, hot takes and being a long term drug use advocate (no hate on that one). He's a terrible commentator. He's a shill. He's an echo chamber for his idiot friends. He helped validate Schaub and spawned him on us. Ugh.

Joe Rogan actually used to have some really good commentary. Especially with Mike Goldberg. Those 2 just complimented each other perfectly.

Was he bias? Absolutely. But he was passionate. And he was good at getting things across. There's a reason he is the #1 Podcaster in the world.

That being said, you could definitely see him weird out over time. I don't know if it is drugs that fried his brains, but the whole Ronda thing was definitely a low for Rogan. Dude was crying talking about Ronda as a "Once Ever"

Rogan went totally sideways on that one.

That being said, he did own up to it and apologize.

And end of the day, even a drugged out Rogan is easier to listen to than DC and Dominick Cringe.

 

[Portland8242]

Are there any legit stories about trained females wanting to take on males?

Really I think when it gets down to business, deep down inside the trained female knows she stands little to no chance against any real size male.

I've trained with lots of female boxers before and 99% of them don't stick around. FIghting just ain't in them.

 

[Lee_]

https://youtube.com/shorts/XRD5oxnijh4?si=YYtRu0tpofTKnVwb

 

[Nathan LaMontagne]

Are there any legit stories about trained females wanting to take on males?

Really I think when it gets down to business, deep down inside the trained female knows she stands little to no chance against any real size male.

I've trained with lots of female boxers before and 99% of them don't stick around. FIghting just ain't in them.

There was an intergender match in Rio Heroes I think (one of those zero rules crazy shit places, matches were in a gym.)

 

[wwkirk]

There was an intergender match in Rio Heroes I think (one of those zero rules crazy shit places, matches were in a gym.)

Sometimes the female wins. A red haired woman won a Bellator contract by beating an obese blogger or Youtuber.

 

[doggo]

The real question is what percentage of sherdoggers actually think they could beat someone like Weili or Nunes in a bar fight.

7 years ago I would have bet on myself to beat Nunes yeah, now? no lol.

 

[bjjwar]

The real question is what percentage of sherdoggers actually think they could beat someone like Weili or Nunes in a bar fight.

Bro, Weili is 1,60m and 50 kg lol.

Nunes could very well beat some small guys out there, but Weili, depending how big you are, no way. She's like a fly for average guys...

 

[Portland8242]

Bro, Weili is 1,60m and 50 kg lol.

Nunes could very well beat some small guys out there, but Weili, depending how big you are, no way. She's like a fly for average guys...

That's the funny thing. If it's not untrained males, Weili is toast. A big dude who's been in some street fights could dispatch Weili within seconds. Imagine Derrick Lewis before his MMA career when he was going to prison and shit. In what world do you see any world-class trained female stand any sort of chance against that? Doesn't matter if it's Amanda Nunes or whoever the fuck.

 

[SeattleFightFan]

rogan-claimed-ronda-could-beat-50-of-male-bw.

The problem isn't that Rogan said some stupid shit. He gets paid well to do just that.

The problem is that so many people automatically assume that everything he says is a fact, without any critical thinking whatsoever.

Certainly no poster I tend to respect parroted that stupidity. But many posters did.

 

[TerrorTimmy]

*Reluctantly raises hand*

Realistically, I think you could say that Rousey is more skilled than 50% of male bantam weights.

But she's beating maybe 3 or 4 percent max.
(And that's just because the ground skill of some fighters is beyond abysmal)

She is definitely not more skilled than 50% of male bantamweights.

Her striking is probably the worst of any fighter ever to fight in the UFC. Conversely, the male bantamweights division is probably the most stacked, most skilled division in the promotion. Everybody can strike. Everybody can grapple. Some are specialists in one or the other, but every guy can do both. Ronda can't strike. Is she better at judo than most guys? Sure. But this is MMA, not judo. Her overall skills are not higher than male bantamweights and certainly not higher than 50% of the most stacked and skilled division in MMA.

Please stop. You're embarrassing yourself.

 

[Dionysian]

Rogan is a no talent ass clown who gets a pass due to his rolodex, hot takes and being a long term drug use advocate (no hate on that one). He's a terrible commentator. He's a shill. He's an echo chamber for his idiot friends. He helped validate Schaub and spawned him on us. Ugh.

While most of what you said is true Rogan is more important to the whole compared to how he is as an individual.

Rogan may largely be a sounding board for his bosses in the UFC and pushed no-talent asses like Schaub, but that is small potatoes for helping to create more democratic (yes, small d) narratives culture-wide. What I mean by that, is conversations unrelegated by state media (popularizing podcasts as a medium) while prior to Rogan the state media had nearly 100% narrative control. Back then it was only the handful of complicit news channels that manufactured nearly all "truth" in American society.

Breaking that horrible soul-constricting monopoly is bigger than Rogan, bigger than any of us. But thanks has to go to Rogan (despite the other flaws which you mentioned) for denting that larger evil.