Potential death of PC Gaming: Microsoft looking to acquire EA, Valve, PUBG [RUMOR] | Page 6

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  1. echohead Black Belt

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    I haven't read the whole thread but it's worth noting that wow (and other blizzard titles, league of legends, and fortnite make up the majority of PC gaming and don't use steam.
     
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    It had a plethora of issues going against it. Turnover, lack of staff, changing direction at the last minute.

    One of the main issues was that the game was supposed to be like No Man Sky, exploring limitless, randomly generated worlds... which sounds great on paper. But I guess they discovered that it gets boring rather quickly if there's not actual storylines tied to each planet. So they changed the number of planets to 30, then down to 7 when they realized that they had pretty much run out of time.
     
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    lol wow I had no idea about any of this. When I heard Bioware I just assumed it was one company. I saw people mention this stuff early on but didn't bother trying to figure it out. Well at least the Edmonton team is working on Dragon Age. I still enjoy that series.
     
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  4. Madmick Stop Spoiling My TV Life (it's the one I like)

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    With all of Microsoft's own PC games (ex. Minecraft, Forza, Gears of War, Sea of Thieves, Crackdown, ReCore, etc) added to Steam, EA's Origin, and PUBG, yeah, they'd control the majority of PC gaming.

    Not even Blizzard + LoL + World of Tanks + asian cafe gaming would enjoy a larger player pool.
     
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    I don't think they're confused at what's being discussed. At least one person in the thread made the "sjw" complaint with respect to sjw elements in a game, and not about unqualified devs. That was about Dragon Age Inquisition, not Andromeda, but they're not exactly missing an argument. They're just responding to a different one than the one that you're currently making.
     
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  6. Madmick Stop Spoiling My TV Life (it's the one I like)

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    It's not his fault they're conflating arguments. Besides, the larger point is valid. SJWism in gaming (both within the games and without) has proven a scourge.

    It severely limits my options, but where I'm aware, I'll make a concerted effort not to support devs that are party to it.
     
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    Are we sure though? As a statement either way is believable but especially adding China to the mix it seems hard to get up to date numbers
     
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    It might not be his fault that they're conflating arguments, but it is his mistake to suggest that they're confused about what's been discussed. The first set of responses in that game were either expressly about elements or ambigious enough that they could be interpreted as being about forcing those elements. The argument didn't shift to being expressly about "diversity hires" until after he had already committed to his position.

    But at this point, we're arguing about the nature of an argument that, as you noted, doesn't really change your greater issue. Not one that I'm convinced by either, mind, but also one that I'm not terribly interested in endlessly rehashing.
     
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    mix of both
     
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  10. Madmick Stop Spoiling My TV Life (it's the one I like)

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    I'm definitely not certain. I'm adding numbers in my head.
     
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    I agree that's true. But if Microsoft mismanages it and pisses off gamers and especially developers, there's nothing to stop the AAA guys from breaking away from Steam... unlike the consoles where the Microsoft Store is the only option.

    Steam works because it's extremely convenient for the gamer and offers ton's of games at great prices.

    Actually, thinking about it... Steam brought PC Gaming closer to the console experience. You buy a game on Steam, download and boom.. .you're good to go. Patches, etc are already installed effortlessly for you. It's rare that games don't run correctly after Steam installs them for you.

    In the past, PC Gaming was often an "exciting" experience trying to get a game running after opening the box... and time consuming.
     
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  12. warriorscomeout Silver Belt

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    First off - you cannot kill PC gaming by buying a service or producer. The number of producers is huge. You could kill PC gaming by buying MS and shutting down Windows.

    Second - why would MS, the producer of Windows for PCs, want to fuck with PC gaming? They got into the console business to provide a homogenous PC as an alternative to Sony.
     
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    The option to MS is Sony/Nintendo.
     
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  14. method115 Steel Belt

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    When I was PC gaming during the days HL2 came out and before that I never really had issues installing games. I haven't noticed a difference honestly. I just like the console like interface of steams big picture mode.
     
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    Guess I'm dating myself. Between downloading and install patches, drivers, icq confilcts.... running setup.exe.
     
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    That's from 2012 but this article from a few days ago suggests Newell's attitude likely hasn't changed, which is fine with me. ;)

    http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/...onic-arts-as-possible-acquisition-target.aspx
     
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  18. jefferz Gold Belt

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    Microsoft’s Direct X had a much bigger impact on getting things t work out of the box then Steam ever had.
     
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    To be fair, that was with EA. And further, it's possible for a buyout to occur that preserves the integrity of the purchased company. Any such buyout between MS and Valve would be to integrate steam into windows, rather than to loot Valve's engines and games. Although I would like to see the source engine really get exploited.
     
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    Buyouts don’t preserve integrity - never have and never will, especially in the face of something like MS. You’re a mouse marrying a Rottweiler. One that snores with it’s mouth open. Case in point the Minecraft studios.
     
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