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"Send them thoughts and prayers"
That information was in your sources . . . there is no secret. They're dumping money into a lawsuit. They can't access money or process payments, etc. What is this super, top secret set of facts that nobody seems to know about?
If you're concerned you should do what I did, donate at least $100 to the National Rifle Association, or the NRA-ILA (National Rifle Association-Institute for Legislative Action) or the NRA-PVF (National Rifle Association-Political Victory
Fund).
I agree the NRA will be just fine. I also think the NRA has a hand in this "the NRA is in financial trouble" narrative. I know from past discussions we've had you've stated their ability to mobilize a strong voter base on a moment's notice, but let's not overlook the fact that just like any single cause movement they are a perpetuating institution that needs to generate support and sometimes they need things like this to motivate people. They are an advocacy group, but they are also a business and businesses need money to survive. So while the media is reporting it, it seems kind of naive to assume the NRA isn't feeding this narrative.
When Dana Loesch stated that the news media loved the mass shootings due to the ratings, she was absolutely correct. What she conveniently left out was so does the NRA and the gun manufacturers. The increase in exposure, interest and funds to the NRA go up after these incidents re-ignite the debates. The gun manufacturers love it because people start using the "B" word and there is always a rush to buy a weapon that is threatened with a ban. After a shooting involving an AR platform I can always count on at least two or three people calling me with the "which one should I buy?" question because they fear they will be banned. I pretty much just tell them get the one you like best, because I know (pretty much from experience and observations of past events) they will fire the thing once or twice at a range and it will end up collecting dust somewhere within a month or so after purchase.
Remember the time Don Jr., the president of the NRA, and a Russian honeypot spy were photographed together?The NRA jumped the shark many moons ago. Now they are little more than a far right wing propaganda group in bed with Russian spies.
The spread of individual liberty is a cause worthy of dedicating ones time, effort, energy, and money.That you should go out of your way to donate a $100 to a gun rights organization over splitting that $100 across a few different charities for cancer research, or even buying toys for a few kids in need - or a million different altruistic acts you could commit your money towards - is literally all a foreigner needs to know about why this country got to be as fucked up as it is, and how it's is possible that people care so little about anyone else other than themselves...
A $100 for a gun rights organization. I'd ask you to repeat that five times until you realize how shameful that is, but I'd be incorrectly assuming you have the capacity to feel shame of any sort.
stating a broad stroke label of prudence when in most cases the people know nothing about the weapon system outside what they see in movies and/or shooting incidents is a stretch. The vast majority of people that have guns I believe have no business owning them and I thank god most of them have the guns locked away collecting dust. The vast majority don't know what the hell they are doing, I see it at the ranges all the time, especially the ranges at gun stores. The people don't know what they are doing, don't have proper training and don't spend the time getting familiar with the weapon, so again I think you are giving them way too much credit.People who are trying to buy before a potential ban are doing so with good reason.
Our nation already had to endure a useless "assault weapons" ban just to ease the anxieties of the overly anxious. During the time of that ban, previously owned firearms were grandfathered in.
The American consumer buying ahead of a possible ban isn't paranoia, but prudence. We've already had a ban in our lifetimes. The NRA is the only reason it was lifted.
Gun owners no longer believe the gun grabbers when they say they don't want an outright ban. They already attempted an outright ban in the 90's. This is one of the reasons so many people are loyal to the NRA despite disagreements they might have with the organization, without the NRA, the political class of our nation would be perfectly happy regulating firearms out of civilian existence just like they did in the UK.
Me too broski. After every tragedy my phone would ring and it would be the NRA looking for money to protect my guns from "liberals, the Clinton Foundation, and Hollywood elites etc. etc." It just got so old to me. Especially after knowing people who lost family in Sandy Hook.I was a NRA member for probably something like 26 years, personally I got tired of the scare tactics and hysteria used to solicit me for more and more money as well as what I noticed was cultural shift that in my opinion morphed from an organization that promoted hunting and gun safety as well as a sense of commerady to one that feeds on paranoia and celebrates incidents of shootings.
That's a good question. You should ask it to the NRA supporters in this thread who are certain that they are not in dire financial straits, but are lying in order to benefit from this situation.
I was a NRA member for probably something like 26 years, personally I got tired of the scare tactics and hysteria used to solicit me for more and more money as well as what I noticed was cultural shift that in my opinion morphed from an organization that promoted hunting and gun safety as well as a sense of commerady to one that feeds on paranoia and celebrates incidents of shootings. I understand and agree with the need to defend yourself, but I think it's a sick notion to celebrate it.
Me too broski. After every tragedy my phone would ring and it would be the NRA looking for money to protect my guns from "liberals, the Clinton Foundation, and Hollywood elites etc. etc." It just got so old to me. Especially after knowing people who lost family in Sandy Hook.
You forgot to add "certain posters who believe the NRA is making up their financial woes still sent them some money any way".
I bought a gun a year or so ago that came with a free membership to the NRA (a Heritage 22LR I picked up as disposable plinker). Their emails are crazy. Did not renew my membership and their NRA magazine goes right in the recycle bin every month.
Which magazine? American Hunter is actually a good read . . .
quite honestly I've stopped supporting single cause movements/organizations. Regardless if they are liberal, conservative, environmental or whatever they all become self propagating devices to enrich someone. So I can't really help you on that one.I'm a life member . . . sure I get the junk mail and spam emails . . . those are easy enough to deal with. Same with the phone calls after some event that they think they need to prepare for . . . I block the calls and move on.
There is a mixture of promoting hunting, gun safety and the ridiculous name calling . . . I don't blindly support each and every aspect of their messages.
But I do need to find a more common sense gun group to support . . . GOA maybe?
And I think you saying the vast majority has no idea what the hell they're doing, is speaking in too broad of a brush stroke as well.stating a broad stroke label of prudence when in most cases the people know nothing about the weapon system outside what they see in movies and/or shooting incidents is a stretch. The vast majority of people that have guns I believe have no business owning them and I thank god most of them have the guns locked away collecting dust. The vast majority don't know what the hell they are doing, I see it at the ranges all the time, especially the ranges at gun stores. The people don't know what they are doing, don't have proper training and don't spend the time getting familiar with the weapon, so again I think you are giving them way too much credit.
The gun bans you're mentioning were in a select few towns, and was only possible in territories. No Citywide gun ban has ever held up in court in a U.S. state.Also I firmly believe the 2nd amendment is safe on a national level. Saying that, I have no problem if cities or local municipalities want to impose restrictions, you seem pretty knowledgeable so I'm sure you already know that there were laws banning possession in many of the cities and towns in the "old west" despite what western movies have tried to portray. Those laws and regulations didn't do anything to impede the western expansion of US laws, rights or norms.
No. The assault weapons ban was going to be permanent, but the NRA got in a 10-year sunset clause placed into the ban at the last minute.The "ban on assault weapons" failed, there were loopholes, there were design modifications and ultimately there were decreased interest in the subject as well as attorneys that wanted to assume the crusade for one reason or another.
I also disagree that the NRA was the reason the ban was lifted, they contributed to it but if there were no NRA I still believe that void would have been filled for advocacy, at the very least by a sympathetic and/or opportunistic law firm.
*camaraderieI was a NRA member for probably something like 26 years, personally I got tired of the scare tactics and hysteria used to solicit me for more and more money as well as what I noticed was cultural shift that in my opinion morphed from an organization that promoted hunting and gun safety as well as a sense of commerady
The NRA doesn't celebrate incidents of shooting. Please name one.to one that feeds on paranoia and celebrates incidents of shootings. I understand and agree with the need to defend yourself, but I think it's a sick notion to celebrate it.
If that happened I'd join back up in a heartbeat.Why would anyone believe the NRA is making this up? It's fairly easy to verify if the actions in NY state are actually taking place.
I've donated more money to local Friends of the NRA chapters than the larger NRA organization . . . and will continue to do so to help their local activities.
There are many folks inside the NRA who are wanting the organization to shift back into concentrating more on true gun safety, training, etc. and less on the hyperbole and paranoia.
I bought a gun a year or so ago that came with a free membership to the NRA (a Heritage 22LR I picked up as disposable plinker). Their emails are crazy. Did not renew my membership and their NRA magazine goes right in the recycle bin every month.
You can get a second cylinder for that Heritage Rough Rider revolver, so out of the same gun you can fire 22 long rifle, and 22 Winchester magnum rimfire (.22 WMR). The cylinder only costs about $30.
Here's a video breaking down a complete review of the pistol, and the process of swapping out the cylinders to change your calibers: