Measles outbreak raging in Europe could be brought to U.S., doctors warn

[Jorge Luis Borges]

I'm no doctor, but I'm under the impression you can get viruses from your environment.

GTFO. Viruses don't even exist in nature.

 

[Kalitaur]

 

[Billy no mates]

Anti-vaccination is a thing in parts of Europe Italy has quite a low measles coverage , so its not just Americans and Pakistanis that are being retarded about it .

 

[WTF2008]

You dont understand how people can get a virus from anywhere other than a vaccination?

You are aware that getting sick is a thing right? You probably have seen a sick person before.

So you've chosen measles as you're example.
Who caught measles? Was it immunized people or just un-immunized people?

How serious were the outbreaks? Were they more serious amongst immunized people vs un-immunized people?

 

[MicroBrew]

Measles shouldn't be doing this, it's the wrong thing to do.

 

[WTF2008]

Yeah, weird. Is it because of a few "antivaxers" or a huge influx of 3rd worlders?

 

[WTF2008]

He asked how you could catch a live virus without it coming from a vaccination.

I'm no doctor, but I'm under the impression you can get viruses from your environment.

And with a vaccinated environment/herd immunity, where did it suddenly come from?
Possibly 3rd world immigrants?

 

[A_bomb47]

Yeah, weird. Is it because of a few "antivaxers" or a huge influx of 3rd worlders?

I can tell you that here in my direct surroundings in the Netherlands it are conservative religious people who are anti-vaccine.

 

[Kalitaur]

Yeah, weird. Is it because of a few "antivaxers" or a huge influx of 3rd worlders?

https://www.economist.com/europe/2018/08/25/anti-vax-fears-drive-a-measles-outbreak-in-europe

 

[WTF2008]

https://www.economist.com/europe/2018/08/25/anti-vax-fears-drive-a-measles-outbreak-in-europe

That article says nothing about antivaxers being to blame.

"About half of the 41,000 cases this year were in Ukraine. Infection rates also jumped in Serbia, Greece and Georgia. In recent years big outbreaks have erupted in Italy, Romania, France and Germany."

"In some years, vaccine shortages were to blame, especially in parts of eastern Europe. Both Ukraine and Serbia have had irregular supplies of the MMR vaccine (which protects against measles, mumps and rubella) since 2014. Even after recent outbreaks, they were not able to procure enough doses to cover older cohorts, health-workers and other groups at risk of becoming infected."

It's an opinion piece. These countries are the largest importers of "refugees".

They've had shortages for 4 years but now it's suddenly an issue?

Weird, look at the graph by country and then look at who is importing the most "refugees".

 

[Trotsky]

This sounds like more doom porn, government save us type shit.

Agreed.

We should, as citizens and participants in the private marketplace, take it upon ourselves, without government help, to violently purge our communities of morons who refuse to vaccinate because they think they know more than scientists.

 

[7437]

And with a vaccinated environment/herd immunity, where did it suddenly come from?
Possibly 3rd world immigrants?

certainly a possibility. a much, much better possibility than it being caused by vaccines.

 

[Bathwater]

I have seen no evidence of you claim, but I posted from the CDC:
Both vaccines contain live, attenuated measles, mumps, and rubella virus....
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/mmr/hcp/about.html

So, tell me, better yet show me, where else do these live viruses come from?

Jesus Christ, you're just spamming links without even understanding the material. Do you know what attenuated means? Do you know how vaccines work? The answer to both is fuck no. GTFO with this nonsense.

 

[woodguyatl]

I have seen no evidence of you claim, but I posted from the CDC:
Both vaccines contain live, attenuated measles, mumps, and rubella virus....
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/mmr/hcp/about.html

So, tell me, better yet show me, where else do these live viruses come from?

 

[PhitePhan]

Agreed.

We should, as citizens and participants in the private marketplace, take it upon ourselves, without government help, to violently purge our communities of morons who refuse to vaccinate because they think they know more than scientists.

What about the scientists who disagree with the provax propaganda?

https://www.jchristoff.com/medical-doctors-and-phd-scientists-speak-out-against-vaccinations-2/

 

[Kalitaur]

What about the scientists who disagree with the provax propaganda?

https://www.jchristoff.com/medical-doctors-and-phd-scientists-speak-out-against-vaccinations-2/

What about them? That list includes renowned Anti-vax profiteers like Mercola, Tenpenny, Brogan, and, best of all, Andrew Wakefield, who isn't even a licensed physician anymore after being completely discredited.

 

[lfd0311]

Yea that's how vaccination works

..... That is actually how vaccination works, and that was his point...

 

[lfd0311]

Agreed.

We should, as citizens and participants in the private marketplace, take it upon ourselves, without government help, to violently purge our communities of morons who refuse to vaccinate because they think they know more than scientists.

No you're finally getting around to acting like a real Communist!!

 

[D 1 Wrestler]

..... That is actually how vaccination works, and that was his point...

Yea now continue his point with actual research

Even the most severely immunocompromised individuals can be around recently vaccinated people with all vaccines, the ONLY exceptions being the live polio vaccine

 

[SiKnSiN]

..... That is actually how vaccination works, and that was his point...

I thought his point was that the vaccine was responsible for the outbreak. It goes to his original ridiculous statement of "I would like to bet that this started in the vaccinated community". How did you interpret that statement?