Longest winning streak 2 title defenses at Heavyweight?

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  1. DevilsPt2

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    3. Cain (Brock let him win only because Dana needed dat mexican market)
    4. Reem (Overeem was on PEDs so that is a W by disqualification for Brock)
    5. Hunt (USADA made a mistake ruling that fight into a NC)

    #HWGOAT
     
  3. VinceArch

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    Oh that explains it.
     
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    His two worst opponents during his PRIDE run, aside from Zulu, who truly was terrible, weren't even in PRIDE. At least one of them was a showcase fight at Inoki Bom Ba Ye on NYE (which is showcase central), and the other was in RINGS and may not have been that bad, I'm just unfamiliar with the opponent. I think these dummies who don't know their facts like to lump those fights in like they were in PRIDE. What they should do is go watch some fights, so they can understand what they're talking about.
     
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    I was going to say b/c it's such a higher percentage of KOs. And while it is higher it's not substantially higher, or high enough to blame it all on that.

    HW KO - 50%
    LWH KO - 42%
    MW KO - 37%

    So ya it's higher but we've still had LHW and MW defend the belt multiple of 3x over. I think it's a combination of HWs being able to be stopped by 1 "fluke" punch. Combined with most top HWs athletes being in other sports so you don't get a truly athletic dominant guy at HW.
     
  6. MikeMcMann

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    Fedor's era was the golden age for HW. More consistent top guys than any era with only the few years of JDS/Cain wars competing.

    Do not mistake the fact that Pride also through a ton of CAN fights to create highlight reels for the fans make you think there were not also top guys. Most top guys in Pride would fight 3 to 4 times a year with 2 top quality and 1-2 can fights, again for the finishes and highlights. that seems to confuse many.

    Fedor still had 1-2 top quality fights a year which is as many as UFC champs take.
     
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    Miocic would murder Sylvia.
     
  8. Mike K.O

    Mike K.O Shogun Rua is my hero

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    Igor "Ice Cold" Vovchanchyn was 5'7" and retired with 59-10 record MMA with 51 finishes (41 KOs) and 61-2 Kickboxing with 48 KOs
    And he fought in PIRDE HW, not UFC HW with 5 contenders
     
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    I think the problem is that we have many TUF era fans or after (Conor fans) who simply did not know Pride and they hear about all the CAN fights, which did happen, but they do not understand that the top fighters always also fought top real guys. top guys were often fighting 3-5 fights a year.

    So for Fedor during his Prime run you had

    2002 - 3 Fight total. 2 top or solid fights, one 'can' fight

    - Herring
    - Schilt
    - Haseman

    2003 - 5 fights total. 3 top or solid fight, 2 can fights

    - Yuji NagataInoki
    - Gary Goodridge
    - Kazuyuki Fujita
    - Egidijus Valavicius
    - Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira

    2004 - 5 fights. All 5 top or solid fights.

    - Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
    - Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
    - Naoya Ogawa
    - Kevin Randleman
    - Mark Coleman

    2005 - 3 Fights - 1 top fight, 2 can fights

    Wagner da Conceicao Martins
    Mirko Filipovic
    Tsuyoshi Kosaka

    2006 - 2 Fights - Both top fights

    - Mark Hunt
    - Mark Coleman

    2007 - 2 Fights. One solid fight, one can

    Hong Man Choi
    Matt Lindland

    2008 - 2010 as Fedor's prime was coming to an end and he was slowing down

    Fabricio Werdum
    Brett Rogers
    Andrei Arlovski
    Tim Sylvia
     
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    This is silly. Both Ngannou and Lewis are way better than a lot of the fighters Fedor faced.
     
  11. TR1

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    UFC HW bums never had the consistency of superior PRIDE HWs.

    Stipe's streak against people who were in the top 10 a DECADE ago when they were in their 20s really shows you how bad the divison is now.
     
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    They are both worse than "a lot of fighters that Fedor faced" as well.
     
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    Not as many as you'd think

    Nog
    Cro Cop
    Sylvia
    Arlovski
    Coleman

    Anyone else?
     
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    Jds run still the most impressive thing in history of that division.
     
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    Schilt would crush Black Beast. So would Fujita. So would Arona. Rogers BB is a toss up.
    Hunt already fucked BB up.

    Herring is a more proven fighter than either BB or Ngannu.
     
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    You know fedor beat like 6 ufc champions right?
     
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    Stipe beat a bunch of guys who were contenders a decade and a half ago, or has been gatekeepers. Then fought a fairly unproven Ngannu.

    Top competition indeed.
     
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    Lol stop acting like you watched Pride.

    Pride HW division around 2004-2006 is better than UFC HW division from any time period
     
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    Prime Sylvia would 100% give him a good fight
     
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    They are both way worse than a lot of fighters Fedor has faced as well though. That’s for sure
     
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