Just spend $230 for a date - WASTE OF TIME!

A first date is NOT a chance for you to blab about your weird hobbies. A first date is your chance to make her feel comfortable around you and come to the realization "Hey I kinda like this guy." This typically involves her talking more than you do. People enjoy talking about themselves and their own interests.
Also don’t get attached to outcome. You’re out having dinner for yourself too.
 
I learned this lesson. I must admit I am slightly taken aback at how angry I was when this all went down. Part of me wants to just delete the whole thread but I know Sherdog and they will just quote the shit out of me at this point. I know this because I literally did that in a past thread, and if my failure brings pleasure to others then at leasts its doing something positive. Plus I am hearing a lot of good advice amongst the trolls. I don't think I should expect anything out of women based on how much I pay, or at least up to a degree. Like if I spend $500 then sure the woman should know better, but otherwise nah. Women aren't services. I am still not sure how bringing up my medieval hobby is an issue (even though everyone + my family says its creepy, ok), but I do see the possible racist undertones in the way I approached certain things (like her brother's name). I will try to keep my cool more going forward.

I'll try my shots again post-covid, post-riots.

Not well.

Not up to a degree - not at all. Youre signing her up for a deal she never agreed to - the amount you spend doesn't entitle you to anything. Not only that, but the vast majority of women (especially the ones you would actually want to date) would feel pretty uncomfortable being taken on an expensive date the first date. Keep it simple and cheap - drinks somewhere you can talk.
 
Stopped reading after MACES. Try harder next time with a convincing story.
 
Let me start from the top, but please bare with me because I am fuming right now so I might not write perfectly. THIS IS NOT TL:DR FRIENDLY

I know a girl (let's call her Clara) who I met in my Operations Management class back in college a few years back. Not going to post a picture, but she is stunning. Long black hair with light brown eyes, slim figure and about 5'4, light skin. Back then, we were paired up in 4 people teams for our class final group project (where we had to design a workflow for a specific product/service).

I was in charge of the powerpoint, she was in charge of admin work, and the other two people were data focused. I remember there was a study night where we all were together practicing in the library and the other two left, with just her and I left. She said "I know we will do great", which struck me as odd because she didn't say "Our team" she said "we" while looking at me. I would always do silly things to talk to her like forget my pen(she would always laugh cause i would always forget my pen, but she didn't realize I was doing it on purpose)

Anyways, fast forward to present time. About 2 weeks ago I ran into her at Kroger (grocery store) , she was waiting on the self checkout line (it was quite full cause it was a sunday) She was still beautiful as ever, with even more curves. I asked her how she has been after graduating and she said she did an internship and was in the process of looking for a new position. She does accounting like me and I told her I have been doing well and work as a full time. A position opened up at my job that is a junior role. I told her that I have been working out a lot more and that I go to the gym almost every other day. I also told her I recently been collecting Medieval weapons/armors and she told me she went to Medieval times (which I joked and told her that's for kids) , so we had this natural click and I could feel the attraction. She asked if we could talk more over coffee and gave me her number (she had just finished packing her bags and I was talking to her)

Now let's get something straight. When women want to talk about business, they don't give you their number, they give you their e-mail address and/or linkedin. ALSO, when she said it she said it in a higher pitch than usual and it's been documented that women will speak in a higher pitch when speaking to a guy they like (I am prefacing this because people give me shit about it).

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Part 2: So I told my friend I got her number and he gave me the "oh shit" emoji. Told me that it makes no sense to take a girl out to cffee since that's cheap, so he told me to take her out to a pretty famous mexican restaurant (she is spanish). So I messaged her and told her to do food instead and she responded "Okay, that sound's great." and we arranged to meet for a lunch.

So when we met I made reservations and she looked drop dead gorgeous as usual, she cracked a joke that she felt underdressed (I was wearing a suit) and I told her it was part of my company policy (it really isnt i just look great in one). We got the table and I immediately ordered the lobster appetizer (which honestly wasnt that good, it was super small and cost like $28) We talked about a lot of things, Trump, the job, medieval weapons (I showed her photos of my maces). She even mentioned she had a brother named Jose so I told her "is it pronounced Joe Say or Hoe Say" and told her how people always mispronounced Jose Aldo's name. She didnt know Aldo so I then showed her Jose Aldo's finish of Jeremy Stephens and then his loss to Conor McGregor, she said she knew who McGregor was which I thought was super hot (shes gorgeous and watches MMA!!, PLUS)

Throughout the whole meal the bill totalleed up to like $150, I went to reach for her hand to touch on top of it while smiling at her and she kind of pulled her hand back which was insulting to me. So when we were leaving she said she had to take a call from her brother (I joked and said "Joe Say?") and I waited for her to walk her back (I think it's rude not to walk women back to their cars, plus I had a surprise)

So I walk her back and told her to wait because I had to get something from my car, I had bought her Richard Donnelly Chocolates which are an extremely expensive brand (Cost me $70) and told her I noticed she bought some chocolate at Kroger so I knew she was a sweet tooth, she said thank you and gave me a hug (she smelled so good).

Anyway, I reached in for a kiss and she did the whole head turning thing and I figured I might have been too forward (I have alot of confidence and can sometimes think light of things like that) so I told her I'd call her later. She never fucking picked up. I texted her and it took THREE fucking days to get a response. and she basically told me she was happy to see me but that she had a boyfriend - yeah fucking bullshit, if you had a boyfriend you would never have shown up, or you would have told me when we kissed (well almost kissed) .

I told her I thought it was bullshit that she led me on and told her that the chocolates i fucking spent were very rare brand and all I get is a fucking hug and no call? What kind of bulllshit is that? I swear it's shit like that makes me think dating is a fucking waste of time, why bother spending so much when you can easily pay equal amts for way more attractive women or just watch porn.

Its insane, anyways

TLDR: I went on a date with a girl, spent a lot of gifts and shit only for her to tell me AFTER that she had a man.


Showed up at Taco Bell in a suit.
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Casting couch fail
 
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stuff like this is problematic.... I think you feel as though your are entitled to affection. At no point does she owe you.

told her that the chocolates i fucking spent were very rare brand and all I get is a fucking hug
I went to reach for her hand to touch on top of it while smiling at her and she kind of pulled her hand back which was insulting to me
 
I don't know what your circumstances or finances are, or what else is going on, but you're hobbies are only a drawback if you're in any way embarrassed or defensive about them. Women pick up on that shit. If you're passionate and committed to your hobby she'll pick up on that and either get with your program or, you'll just meet a chick who's on your wavelength. Half assing things won't get you anywhere. And fuck what she or your family think. As long as your not hurting anybody who cares dude

If you look like Joe, your hobby can literally be a custom built dungeon in your home for your Dungeons and Dragons games and hot bitches will still love you.

joe.jpg


Dude fucks Sofia Vergara and is a nerdlord. Then again, dude looks good enough to where I would probably fuck him and I'm not even gay. So I'm sure women let lame hobbies slide if you look good enough to turn out straight dudes.
 
If you look like Joe, your hobby can literally be a custom built dungeon in your home for your Dungeons and Dragons games and hot bitches will still love you.

joe.jpg


Dude fucks Sofia Vergara and is a nerdlord. Then again, dude looks good enough to where I would probably fuck him and I'm not even gay. So I'm sure women let lame hobbies slide if you look good enough to turn out straight dudes.

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Let me start from the top, but please bare with me because I am fuming right now so I might not write perfectly. THIS IS NOT TL:DR FRIENDLY

I know a girl (let's call her Clara) who I met in my Operations Management class back in college a few years back. Not going to post a picture, but she is stunning. Long black hair with light brown eyes, slim figure and about 5'4, light skin. Back then, we were paired up in 4 people teams for our class final group project (where we had to design a workflow for a specific product/service).

I was in charge of the powerpoint, she was in charge of admin work, and the other two people were data focused. I remember there was a study night where we all were together practicing in the library and the other two left, with just her and I left. She said "I know we will do great", which struck me as odd because she didn't say "Our team" she said "we" while looking at me. I would always do silly things to talk to her like forget my pen(she would always laugh cause i would always forget my pen, but she didn't realize I was doing it on purpose)

Anyways, fast forward to present time. About 2 weeks ago I ran into her at Kroger (grocery store) , she was waiting on the self checkout line (it was quite full cause it was a sunday) She was still beautiful as ever, with even more curves. I asked her how she has been after graduating and she said she did an internship and was in the process of looking for a new position. She does accounting like me and I told her I have been doing well and work as a full time. A position opened up at my job that is a junior role. I told her that I have been working out a lot more and that I go to the gym almost every other day. I also told her I recently been collecting Medieval weapons/armors and she told me she went to Medieval times (which I joked and told her that's for kids) , so we had this natural click and I could feel the attraction. She asked if we could talk more over coffee and gave me her number (she had just finished packing her bags and I was talking to her)

Now let's get something straight. When women want to talk about business, they don't give you their number, they give you their e-mail address and/or linkedin. ALSO, when she said it she said it in a higher pitch than usual and it's been documented that women will speak in a higher pitch when speaking to a guy they like (I am prefacing this because people give me shit about it).

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Part 2: So I told my friend I got her number and he gave me the "oh shit" emoji. Told me that it makes no sense to take a girl out to cffee since that's cheap, so he told me to take her out to a pretty famous mexican restaurant (she is spanish). So I messaged her and told her to do food instead and she responded "Okay, that sound's great." and we arranged to meet for a lunch.

So when we met I made reservations and she looked drop dead gorgeous as usual, she cracked a joke that she felt underdressed (I was wearing a suit) and I told her it was part of my company policy (it really isnt i just look great in one). We got the table and I immediately ordered the lobster appetizer (which honestly wasnt that good, it was super small and cost like $28) We talked about a lot of things, Trump, the job, medieval weapons (I showed her photos of my maces). She even mentioned she had a brother named Jose so I told her "is it pronounced Joe Say or Hoe Say" and told her how people always mispronounced Jose Aldo's name. She didnt know Aldo so I then showed her Jose Aldo's finish of Jeremy Stephens and then his loss to Conor McGregor, she said she knew who McGregor was which I thought was super hot (shes gorgeous and watches MMA!!, PLUS)

Throughout the whole meal the bill totalleed up to like $150, I went to reach for her hand to touch on top of it while smiling at her and she kind of pulled her hand back which was insulting to me. So when we were leaving she said she had to take a call from her brother (I joked and said "Joe Say?") and I waited for her to walk her back (I think it's rude not to walk women back to their cars, plus I had a surprise)

So I walk her back and told her to wait because I had to get something from my car, I had bought her Richard Donnelly Chocolates which are an extremely expensive brand (Cost me $70) and told her I noticed she bought some chocolate at Kroger so I knew she was a sweet tooth, she said thank you and gave me a hug (she smelled so good).

Anyway, I reached in for a kiss and she did the whole head turning thing and I figured I might have been too forward (I have alot of confidence and can sometimes think light of things like that) so I told her I'd call her later. She never fucking picked up. I texted her and it took THREE fucking days to get a response. and she basically told me she was happy to see me but that she had a boyfriend - yeah fucking bullshit, if you had a boyfriend you would never have shown up, or you would have told me when we kissed (well almost kissed) .

I told her I thought it was bullshit that she led me on and told her that the chocolates i fucking spent were very rare brand and all I get is a fucking hug and no call? What kind of bulllshit is that? I swear it's shit like that makes me think dating is a fucking waste of time, why bother spending so much when you can easily pay equal amts for way more attractive women or just watch porn.

Its insane, anyways

TLDR: I went on a date with a girl, spent a lot of gifts and shit only for her to tell me AFTER that she had a man.
That's a lot for not knowing if it's a real date or not. I dropped around $200 on the first time I took my current GF out but we had already been hanging out and she came over a few times before that.
 
If you look like Joe, your hobby can literally be a custom built dungeon in your home for your Dungeons and Dragons games and hot bitches will still love you.

joe.jpg


Dude fucks Sofia Vergara and is a nerdlord. Then again, dude looks good enough to where I would probably fuck him and I'm not even gay. So I'm sure women let lame hobbies slide if you look good enough to turn out straight dudes.
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Ah, fuck it.
Lemme post ITT, before it's archived.
Future legendary shite
 
For every question a girl hits you with, hit them with three. Less is more, don't talk yourself into a stupor and remove all the mystery/awkwardness from your personal life. Let shit happen organically

After 6 dates, "Hey I'm watching some MMA this Saturday, want to come watch some chick with a jaw bigger than mine duke it out?" Then you can organically plug in Aldo.

Upon seeing your lavish abode, then you can bring up the Mace on the wall and not be a cretin.

You honestly dont sound "creepy," just socially maladroit. Everything you brought up is something that you would toss at a prospective guy pal.

Work on yourself and try again bruh. Don't let 32 pages of roasting discourage ye. Id say, shave the dome, hair is looking a little thin, and double down on the gym. Best of luck to ye.
This is some DAMN good advice. Especially for a guy with just a handful of post on here. Feel free to post more often man.

But theirs always the X factor with females. Not even THEY know what they want in life. Strangely enough those are usually the ones that are divorced and write "I know what I want" in their dating profile.

So every time I read a story about a awkward encounter with a female I am never surprised.
 
What an amazing thread OP
Hope your dating life is much better now

Any update of this would be much appreciated
 
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