Just rewatched Jacare vs Gas

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  1. Fatback96

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    This fight was crazy. It was a lot more lopsided than I remember, in favor of Jacare. The judges must've been scoring based on who looked to be the fresher fighter, because Gastelum landed little effective offense on Jacare and all of it was blocked except for the one knockdown in round 2.
    Round by round:

    Round 1- Jacare grabs the single-leg and struggles for 2 minutes but eventually gets Gas to the ground. Jacare dominates Gastelum on the ground, including sub attempts, control and heavy GnP. Late armbar attempt by Jacare that Gas gets out of. Props to Gastelum for getting out of multiple subs.
    10-9 Jacare due to control, heavy GnP, and sub attempts.

    Round 2- Jacare looking tired but landing HEAVY shots on Gastelum's non moving brick chin. Gas throwing punches from far but getting blocked by Jacare mostly until the knockdown.[​IMG]
    Jacare goes full zombie-mode and marches down Gas while covering up and winging huge shots that land. Gas obviously using the "I'll use my face to block punches" strategy while giving little offense that lands. [​IMG]
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    10-9 Gastelum or even 10-10 since the knockdown is the only effective strike landed by Gas.

    Round 3- Gastelum walking down Jacare, the latter seems to be very tired. Gas throwing punches with his hands low, resulting in constant counters from Jacare.[​IMG]
    Gas not landing much because of Jacare's high shell-style guard, and Gas circling around. Jacare going for multiple takedown attempts that get stuffed repeatedly, and Jacare sometimes using takedown threats to come over the top to land more big shots. Gas definitely looks to be the fresher fighter, and is able to stuff most takedowns until Jacare is able to land a Judo throw that has Gas on the bottom for a short bit, but Jacare seems to be too tired to keep him down. Jacare landing more big shots until Gas is able to connect at the very end.
    10-9 Jacare due to more offense, heavier offense, a takedown, and blocking most punches.

    Basically I'm saying that fight was not close based on actual offense and control. Just because you look fresher and have an iron chin doesn't mean you automatically deserve the round.

    29-28 Jacare at least
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  2. Grijswaarde

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    Such a random fight to make a pretty big thread about. But it's ok to do so i guess.

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  3. Fatback96

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    Better than a one sentence shit thread
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  4. JayE

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    That fight cost me around $1000 as part of a parlay. I thought Jacare won, but I was in no way confident when the fight ended. Jacare was landing a lot of big shots that Gastelum ate really well. Gastelum's poker face did a lot to convince the judges, apparently.
     
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    Depends on what the one sentence is... but in general yeah agreed.

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    A tough fight to judge from what I remember. Perfect fight to rewatch on fight pass. I do remember Jacares bombs though , he was hitting gas FLUSH on the chin.
     
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    I remember when the bell rang not knowing who the judges were gonna score that for. Good fight. Glad Gas got the nod.

    Gas vs. Whittaker is such a great fight.
     
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    Jacare won that fight.

    29-28.
     
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    Great analysis and I agree with TS - 29 to 28 in favor of Jacare.

    And it’s not a “random” fight to pick out at all. It was Kevlins last fight so essentially he earned his TS by the win.
     
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    I remember not being impressed with either fighter. Jacare gassed halfway through the fight and Gastelum showed awful striking defense against a gassed Jacare. Neither fighter showed they deserved to fight for the belt, but Gastelum makes the most sense as he hasn't fought Whittaker yet.
     
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    I do tend to agree with the third, its a classic case of the judges thinking someone looks like he's winning the fight rather than looking at how offence is actually landing.
     
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    Yeah, exactly. Judging on body language.
     
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    I remember on fight night thinking kelvin won but ill watch again
     
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    It's close when you break it all down like that, but, personally, I was watching that fight just thinking how useless Jacare was against Kelvn. "I have groundgame on this kid! Check this out!" ... and nothing happens. Jacare's crowning weapon just washed off. Overall, he seemed to be in the fight of his life - looking slow as an old timer there at the end. Meanwhile, Kelvin's cool as a cucumber, almost disinterested.

    When they went to a decision, to me, it really was about who I wanna see move up and it wasn't Jacare. Which isn't fair cause this isn't a real fight, it's a contest based on specific criteria and Jacare did seem to "score" more, but I just don't care about that. I don't have to either. I just liked Kelvin better in that fight.

    But it was a fun fight, sucked that it didn't get enough attention.
     
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    I assume these elite MMA guys train everyday. Why do they still gas after 10-15 minutes of actual fighting?
     
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    I remember this fight, I had a nice combo on Jacare, but I was very, very nervous when the descision came up. I thaught Jacare clearly had rd1, Gastulum clearly had rd2, and rd3 could have gone either way. Cool and close fight, but I don't think it had a 'clear' winner by any means.
     
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    Agree with everything in the OP, I was shocked Gas won.
     
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    I thought Jacare had ended up outlanding Kelvin, but his body language was just so atrocious I'm not surprised at all he lost. Jacare looked defeated before the fight even ended, even as he was outstriking Kelvin in the critical third round. Shows how important it is.
     
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