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Btw, what is your response to the Deir Yassin massacre?
Horrible, what's your response to the Hebron Massacre?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1929_Hebron_massacre
Btw, what is your response to the Deir Yassin massacre?
Exactly, they couldn't because they did not have the support of the reigning hegemonic power. Therefore this is not some equivalent conflict, its one sided in favor of the Zionists.How could the Arabs have done anything similar, they lost and fled first. The Jews were never going to flee because they had no where else to go and lost 1% of their population during the wars. I can only imagine what would have happened if the Arabs could actually fight back then.
And by the end of May they had broken the siege. It shows that despite having a very weak presence in Palestine the Zionists, due to their superior training, arms, and manpower, outclassed the Palestinians resistance.By the end of March 1948, most of the Haganah’s armored car fleet lay in ruins, and Jewish West Jerusalem, with 100,000 residents, was under siege. That would represent 20% of the Jewish population being captured but once again the Arabs were unable to accomplish their goals
That's because the Palestinians were expelled by the Israelis at the end of a gun, something you will deceitfully deny. It was not a standard conflict, it was a well trained, equipped, and manned militia fighting the poorly organized indigenous people whom they sought the ethnically cleanse with the tacit approval of great powers.The Arabs fled and the Jews didn't. One side had to win this war and up until then this was a standard conflict.
Horrible. The reason why I mentioned it, was to highlight, and to your credit I have not seen you deny it, that zionists extremists committed horrible crimes, but Israeli apologists say they are outliers and try to blame the Palestinians for everything.Horrible, what's your response to the Hebron Massacre?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1929_Hebron_massacre
Exactly, they couldn't because they did not have the support of the reigning hegemonic power. Therefore this is not some equivalent conflict, its one sided in favor of the Zionists.
You're mealy mouthed lying does not change that.
And by the end of May they had broken the siege. It shows that despite having a very weak presence in Palestine the Zionists, due to their superior training, arms, and manpower, outclassed the Palestinians resistance.
That's because the Palestinians were expelled by the Israelis at the end of a gun, something you will deceitfully deny. It was not a standard conflict, it was a well trained, equipped, and manned militia fighting the poorly organized indigenous people whom they sought the ethnically cleanse with the tacit approval of great powers.
And no one side did not have to win necessarily in the way you're saying. The Zionists had broken the Palestinian militias by the end of May 1948 but that does not mean they had to ethnically cleanse hundreds of thousands of Palestinians. But you will continue to defend ethnic cleansing at the hands of Zionists.
Horrible. The reason why I mentioned it, was to highlight, and to your credit I have not seen you deny it, that zionists extremists committed horrible crimes, but Israeli apologists say they are outliers and try to blame the Palestinians for everything.
No, first and foremost what mattered was the fact that the British suppression of the Arab revolt of 1936-39 broke the militant power of the Palestinians while in the intervening period the Zionists armed themselves and received training from the British to participate in WWII.There were many factors to why the Arabs lost, this was first and foremost a test of will. The Jews had their backs to the walls with no where else to go. The Arabs under the stress of a war collapsed and instead of surrendering they had neighboring Arab nations intervene on their behalf, intensifying the price they would pay.
You're excluding the part where Soviets decided to support the Zionist cause and sold them arms. More dishonesty from you but that's to be expected at this point. Here's something else from wikiFrom wiki:
To counter this, the Yishuv authorities tried to supply the city with convoys of up to 100 armoured vehicles, but the operation became more and more impractical as the number of casualties in the relief convoys surged. By March, al-Husayni's tactic had paid off. Almost all of Haganah's armoured vehicles had been destroyed, the blockade was in full operation, and hundreds of Haganah members who had tried to bring supplies into the city were killed.[44] The situation for those who dwelt in the Jewish settlements in the highly isolated Negev and North of Galilee was more critical.
This situation caused the USA to withdraw their support for the Partition plan, and the Arab League began to believe that the Palestinian Arabs, reinforced by the Arab Liberation Army, could put an end to partition. The British decided on 7 February 1948 to support the annexation of the Arab part of Palestine by Transjordan.[45]
They cite their sources and I double checked. So why did the world powers and the Arab League believe the Palestinian Arabs were close to winning?
So much for "B-Both sides!"The situation of the 100,000 Jews situated in Jerusalem was precarious, and supplies to the city, already slim in number, were likely to be stopped. Nonetheless, despite the setbacks suffered, the Jewish forces, in particular Haganah, remained superior in number and quality to those of the Arab forces.
No, if the Palestinians surrendered they would be facing what they faced before and what they face now, ethnic cleansing. And people like you would play apologist for it as you are now.That is true, they did not have to. If the Arabs had surrendered they may have been able to salvage more of their land in an agreement.
No, first and foremost what mattered was the fact that the British suppression of the Arab revolt of 1936-39 broke the militant power of the Palestinians while in the intervening period the Zionists armed themselves and received training from the British to participate in WWII.
You're excluding the part where Soviets decided to support the Zionist cause and sold them arms. More dishonesty from you but that's to be expected at this point. Here's something else from wiki
So much for "B-Both sides!"
No, if the Palestinians surrendered they would be facing what they faced before and what they face now, ethnic cleansing. And people like you would play apologist for it as you are now.
I'm done talking with someone as dishonest and slimy as you, have the last word and have a nice day.
I answered all your claims but of course more lies from you. As I said, to be expected at this point from someone as dishonest and unprincipled as you.You retreat every time and cry when you are pressed. Nothing new today.
I answered all your claims but of course more lies from you. As I said, to be expected at this point from someone as dishonest and unprincipled as you.
Bombs falling right now
Bombs falling right now
Don't poke the bear?
I made this cartoon 6 years ago, but the way mainstream media portrays Israel siege of Gaza remains the same: “Blame Hamas”
Mainstream media coverage of Gaza “rockets”.
For a long time Israel has been cutting water, medicines and fuel to civilians in Gaza. Bomb schools. Snipers kill unarmed protesters, nurses, journalists. Stone throwing kids facing military court. But mainstream media seems interested only in “Hamas rockets”.
Israel’s double standard
https://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2018/11/13/in-images-eyes-on-gaza/
Think!
I have. Israel needs more land and sunni arabs should be pushed to egypt and jordan. "Palestine" is jordan.