How did the GOP Fail Healthcare Repeal + Replace?

[ehtheist]

This is an incredibly disingenuous take. They came up with a horrible plan, and 95% of them still voted for it despite it having sub-20% approval from the public.

You would be shocked at the scope of the audiences that find this narrative quite convincing

 

[Gandhi]

Their members looked at it, said "This sucks," and rather than voting along partisan lines and pushing crappy legislation through because "Fuck Obama!" they did the right thing and scrapped it. While you're all gloating about Republican incompetence, I've been applauding a move made along non-partisan lines. But, it's like the recent Trump DACA thing - when Trump actually reaches out across the aisle, a majority of the buzz about this really admirable act is negative and mean spirited, rather than applauding a politician for something more politicians should do.

Anything that defies party lines, when it's good for America, is something we should be pushing for more of, not making fun of because we are so partisan than can't see more than an opportunity to do more then laugh at the other side...

Ok so give McCain and a handful or Rs credit for at least recognizing that what they were offering was dog shit. Give the entire party a black eye for not coming up with anything after 7 years of death panels and other BS.

LOL NM already said better by other posters

 

[Jack V Savage]

You would be shocked at the scope of the audiences that find this narrative quite convincing

It wouldn't change anyone's mind, but your fellow tribalists will like anything that supports their narrative.

 

[Prutfis]

I'm just wondering where trumps grand plan is at?
During the campaign he said he had a plan, great plan, tremendous plan.
Better coverage for less money, covering everyone.
When it was time to step up to the plate the cheeto don had Jack shit and let everyone else do the work. DNB President

 

[hillelslovak87]

It's quite simple. You push for a plan that any compassionate human being would reject. While you yourself, being a politician, are not a compassionate human, you realize you will lose your power if you proceed.

 

[ultramanhyata]

The question is how was it their main focus for 7 years -- it was. So they had 7 years to work on it, just it and nothing else and they pushed out a steaming pile of crap.

What were they doing for 7 years ??

Though a shorter timeline, you can ask the same sort of question about the alleged "new, better vetting procedures" that were going to be rolled out within 3 to 6 months of the travel ban's institution.

 

[panamaican]

It's very simple. They prized rhetoric over actual policy.

They spent all of the time after the passage of Obamacare applying negative rhetoric to it to try and win elections. However, they never spent a moment determining if the policy itself was helping people. And they never spent any time actually crafting a counter policy. So when they ended up in complete control of the government branches, they suddenly had to wrestle with dismantling a policy that was helping their constituents and replacing it with something that was equally effective. At that point they realized that Obamacare was helping people so they couldn't just repeal it without hurting people. And they realized that it was well drafted and implemented so replacing it wasn't going to be easy without replicating the same ideas that they'd spent all this time saying weren't effective.

If anyone wants to know when the GOP lost their direction - it was with the passage of Obamacare. It was right around that time that the GOP simply stopped crafting policy and switched to a pure anti-Obama obstructionist group.

 

[MMAViewer]

Their plan was terrible, plain and simple.

Nothing more nothing less.
Trump had nothing to do with it.

 

[Rhood]

You mentioned Monica Lewinsky and the Iraq war, but how the fuck did you fall asleep through Hurricane Katrina and The Recession?
Those were huge clusterfucks!

 

[Rhood]

The Republican Party did not come out this looking halfway decent or responsible. The way they crafted the bill, no open hearings and McConnell furiously trying to buy votes for the thing in back room deals, pushing an early version through the house with no CBO score etc was incredibly fucking shameless especially in light of their whining about how Obamacare was passed, which was about a thousand times more transparent than this mess.

Yeah, this whole "writing bills in secrecy" was complete nonsense.
This is the government voted by the people to run the country, not the CIA for fucks sake!
Just the way they handled it left a really bad impression.
It just shows the immaturity level of Mitch McConnell.

 

[cincymma79]

Trump is for universal healthcare
He's only said it 3781747383738 times for years

 

[sickc0d3r]

Their members looked at it, said "This sucks," and rather than voting along partisan lines and pushing crappy legislation through because "Fuck Obama!" they did the right thing and scrapped it. While you're all gloating about Republican incompetence, I've been applauding a move made along non-partisan lines. But, it's like the recent Trump DACA thing - when Trump actually reaches out across the aisle, a majority of the buzz about this really admirable act is negative and mean spirited, rather than applauding a politician for something more politicians should do.

Anything that defies party lines, when it's good for America, is something we should be pushing for more of, not making fun of because we are so partisan than can't see more than an opportunity to do more then laugh at the other side...

Actually, shouldn't we be pissed that the new plan is to actively root for bad things to happen to Americans so they can try again? If they really wanted to do the right thing they'd be open to looking for ways to fix the existing law. But, the gop, like most of Washington, is a giant bag of dicks.

 

[Chesten_Hesten]

They've been bitching about Obamacare for 7 years.

Because the Republicans are a political party of idiots. They probably never had any intention too, until Trump called them on it.

In reality Republican politicians are minor-league Democrats. There to broker deals and make money for them and there's. Incompetent do nothing shitheads.

 

[*Z*]

It sounds like they may try one more time to repeal the ACA or parts of it anyway.

 

[Joe_Armstrong]

Because the reps are a there to support the industry not the people.
So when they presented a plan that was good for corps and the rich,
they got shot down. It doesn't occur to them it should be a plan for the people.

 

[ShoelessRye]

They got a new one - Graham/Cassidy, and it's going to pass. And it's a total sham where by there is going to be no CBO score, and one hearing. And wait until you hear about that hearing.
It's not going to be in front of HHS, but in front of Homeland Security - a committee that has never had a hearing on healthcare and has no control over healthcare. But GOP want to get around "no hearings" attack point. Furthemore on this "hearing" it's chaired by Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and he's agreed to limit this hearing to only two witnesses - Lindsay Graham and Bill Cassidy. Only the two authors of the bill will speak. And then Homeland Security committee will vote to move it to full Senate.

McCain is aboard because this is his little buddy's bill.

 

[Rational Poster]

It's very simple. They prized rhetoric over actual policy.

They spent all of the time after the passage of Obamacare applying negative rhetoric to it to try and win elections. However, they never spent a moment determining if the policy itself was helping people. And they never spent any time actually crafting a counter policy. So when they ended up in complete control of the government branches, they suddenly had to wrestle with dismantling a policy that was helping their constituents and replacing it with something that was equally effective. At that point they realized that Obamacare was helping people so they couldn't just repeal it without hurting people. And they realized that it was well drafted and implemented so replacing it wasn't going to be easy without replicating the same ideas that they'd spent all this time saying weren't effective.

If anyone wants to know when the GOP lost their direction - it was with the passage of Obamacare. It was right around that time that the GOP simply stopped crafting policy and switched to a pure anti-Obama obstructionist group.

I think it's even simpler than that.

They weren't expecting to win so they never actually came up with a plan to govern.

They're quite content being the party of opposition in congress with their cushy salaries and benefits, but they don't like having to come up with creative or innovative solutions to our problems.

 

[Rod1]

They got a new one - Graham/Cassidy, and it's going to pass. And it's a total sham where by there is going to be no CBO score, and one hearing. And wait until you hear about that hearing.
It's not going to be in front of HHS, but in front of Homeland Security - a committee that has never had a hearing on healthcare and has no control over healthcare. But GOP want to get around "no hearings" attack point. Furthemore on this "hearing" it's chaired by Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and he's agreed to limit this hearing to only two witnesses - Lindsay Graham and Bill Cassidy. Only the two authors of the bill will speak. And then Homeland Security committee will vote to move it to full Senate.

McCain is aboard because this is his little buddy's bill.

Good.

Hopefully this will open the eyes to the elderly idiots that keep voting Republican.

EDIT

Who am i kidding, they will have the effects of the bill come out after primaries and maybe even past 2020, so that they can blame it on the Democrat president.

 

[Mark Hunts FIST]

Can they just repel every aspect of ACA and replace it with nothing? just go back pre ACA?

I'm not saying I support that. just curious if they have a legal ability to do that?

 

[Voltron]

They haven't say much since the clusterfuck they came out with