How did the GOP Fail Healthcare Repeal + Replace?

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They've been bitching about Obamacare for 7 years. They have the house, senate, the SCOTUS, and the presidency. They didn't need it but they would have even gotten left-wing support on a reasonable plan. They had universal support to do it. It was a "mandate".

And they couldn't do it.

7 years and their 2 ground-breaking ideas were removing the pre-existing conditions clause and removing caps on fees for old people.

Nothing removing state line insurance boundaries, no drug patent reform, no removing anti-generic drug producing laws, no allowing people to purchase medications from overseas, no getting individuals in the same larger pools as employer plans, none of anything that everyone on both sides of the aisle could have gotten behind.

Whaaaaaaaaat? I've never seen so much failure in politics. And I've seen some doozies! The Iraq War, Monica Lewinsky, I've seen some shit. And this trumps it all.
 
Their members looked at it, said "This sucks," and rather than voting along partisan lines and pushing crappy legislation through because "Fuck Obama!" they did the right thing and scrapped it. While you're all gloating about Republican incompetence, I've been applauding a move made along non-partisan lines. But, it's like the recent Trump DACA thing - when Trump actually reaches out across the aisle, a majority of the buzz about this really admirable act is negative and mean spirited, rather than applauding a politician for something more politicians should do.

Anything that defies party lines, when it's good for America, is something we should be pushing for more of, not making fun of because we are so partisan than can't see more than an opportunity to do more then laugh at the other side...
 
Their members looked at it, said "This sucks," and rather than voting along partisan lines and pushing crappy legislation through because "Fuck Obama!" they did the right thing and scrapped it. While you're all gloating about Republican incompetence, I've been applauding a move made along non-partisan lines. But, it's like the recent Trump DACA thing - when Trump actually reaches out across the aisle, a majority of the buzz about this really admirable act is negative and mean spirited, rather than applauding a politician for something more politicians should do.

Anything that defies party lines, when it's good for America, is something we should be pushing for more of, not making fun of because we are so partisan than can't see more than an opportunity to do more then laugh at the other side...
The question is how was it their main focus for 7 years -- it was. So they had 7 years to work on it, just it and nothing else and they pushed out a steaming pile of crap.

What were they doing for 7 years ??
 
They didnt have better plan the whole time. But in politics you cant say listen we dont have better plan. So they attacked the dems on it and it won them election. But you cant make something worse when in control....so they did the right thing and left it alone
 
Tgey had nothing to replace it with and never really wanted full repeal.
 
It is because Trump is a do nothing bitch.
 
Cause Trump is a weak divisive president. There's no way to sugar coat or deny that.
 
They didnt have better plan the whole time. But in politics you cant say listen we dont have better plan. So they attacked the dems on it and it won them election. But you cant make something worse when in control....so they did the right thing and left it alone
I just nailed out a better plan that would have gotten bipartisan support and made the GOP look like free market superheroes. It took me a minute and I'm drunk.

Superpunch's 1 minute drunk 5-point free-market reform plan:

1) Remove state line insurance boundaries
2) drug patent reform
3) modify anti-generic drug producing laws
4) allow people to purchase medications from overseas
5) get individuals in the same larger pools as employer plans

GOP's 7 year million $ thinktank Darth Vader plan:
1) Fuck sick people
2) Fuck old people
 
Word on the hill is that Trump is actually looking at ways with the Dems to improve the Obamacare markets now, but wants to still call it "repeal and replace" for a lot of his supporters that wont realize he just cemented it. Lollllll
 
Cause Trump is a weak divisive president. There's no way to sugar coat or deny that.
Trump didn't make this stupid shit GOP plan.

Instead of trying to bully (and failing to do it) GOP congressmen and senators into passing though, he should have called it out for the pile of shit it was from the beginning. Just completely bitch out Paul Ryan and the establishment on twitter for putting out that garbage after 7 years of work.

THEN had his cabinet put together something new and introduce it into congress himself.

He would have effectively taken over the party from the establishment figures like Ryan. Driven them out. AND he would have looked like a pivotal, transformational and effective president. Amazing start to his presidency, like FDR's 100 day plan.

That's what a strong, effective president would have done.

Instead he supported this crap and failed anyways.
 
Their members looked at it, said "This sucks," and rather than voting along partisan lines and pushing crappy legislation through because "Fuck Obama!" they did the right thing and scrapped it. While you're all gloating about Republican incompetence, I've been applauding a move made along non-partisan lines. But, it's like the recent Trump DACA thing - when Trump actually reaches out across the aisle, a majority of the buzz about this really admirable act is negative and mean spirited, rather than applauding a politician for something more politicians should do.

Anything that defies party lines, when it's good for America, is something we should be pushing for more of, not making fun of because we are so partisan than can't see more than an opportunity to do more then laugh at the other side...

This is nuts.

The Republicans did push a shitty plan along party lines and came within a vote of passing it. There were three defectors (Collins, Murkowski and McCain) who voted with the Dems to kill the bill. It was a highly partisan affair.

The Republican Party did not come out this looking halfway decent or responsible. The way they crafted the bill, no open hearings and McConnell furiously trying to buy votes for the thing in back room deals, pushing an early version through the house with no CBO score etc was incredibly fucking shameless especially in light of their whining about how Obamacare was passed, which was about a thousand times more transparent than this mess.
 
No matter the plan, it won't get passed becauee of Trump
 
The question is how was it their main focus for 7 years -- it was. So they had 7 years to work on it, just it and nothing else and they pushed out a steaming pile of crap.

What were they doing for 7 years ??

Being partisan dickheads creating an issue out of nothing to scare people into votes. Aren't you happy that when they, as a party, had the power to do something truly bad for the American people, they took a step back and said "Wait, this is a *terrible* idea - we can't let this go through..."

I find it astonishing that people see the appropriate response to this type of move is to pour more partisanism into the mix - yet that is the knee jerk reaction people have and they will vehemently defend them being right in making this divisive response. But hey, this is the climate we live in. Now watch the partisan hacks come in and explain to us why mocking a party for making the right decision is the right course to take... We literally having people gloating because a party didn't do something they didn't want to happen - and we wonder why our system is a partisan shit show?
 
Because the system has failed, employers don't want to provide because we moved to a lowered bar society, and the only thing that will ACTUALLY work is socialized medicine. Sorry if you don't like it, but that's the truth.
 
Being partisan dickheads creating an issue out of nothing to scare people into votes. Aren't you happy that when they, as a party, had the power to do something truly bad for the American people, they took a step back and said "Wait, this is a *terrible* idea - we can't let this go through..."

I find it astonishing that people see the appropriate response to this type of move is to pour more partisanism into the mix - yet that is the knee jerk reaction people have and they will vehemently defend them being right in making this divisive response. But hey, this is the climate we live in. Now watch the partisan hacks come in and explain to us why mocking a party for making the right decision is the right course to take... We literally having people gloating because a party didn't do something they didn't want to happen - and we wonder why our system is a partisan shit show?

Because thats not what happened, there are 52 republican senators and 49 voted in favor. 94% of the GOP voted to fuck the elderly and the poor.

And of the 3 that voted against only one was on a solid red state and was caled RINO and other things for doing so.
 
Being partisan dickheads creating an issue out of nothing to scare people into votes. Aren't you happy that when they, as a party, had the power to do something truly bad for the American people, they took a step back and said "Wait, this is a *terrible* idea - we can't let this go through..."

I find it astonishing that people see the appropriate response to this type of move is to pour more partisanism into the mix - yet that is the knee jerk reaction people have and they will vehemently defend them being right in making this divisive response. But hey, this is the climate we live in. Now watch the partisan hacks come in and explain to us why mocking a party for making the right decision is the right course to take... We literally having people gloating because a party didn't do something they didn't want to happen - and we wonder why our system is a partisan shit show?

Please stop, you're far more intelligent than this.

If a kid is playing with a knife and drops it 3 centimeters away from his foot, you don't praise the kid for not cutting himself, you admonish him for playing with the knife in the first place. There's no "sides" to that, it's a stupid move all around.

So when it's said that the GOP came 3 defectors away from fucking us all over, you think we should praise them for doing what they should have done in the first place? THAT'S how we get fucked over. Instead of following through on our admonishment, we prostrate at their feet for not fucking us over and reward them with votes. There's nothing partisan about that, that's the plan that they pushed with no input from anyone else. I'm not going to play bothsideism because the reality that one wing of our political spectrum came a scrote's hair from hard dicking us offends your sensibilities. Sometimes, it's just the truth.
 
Their members looked at it, said "This sucks," and rather than voting along partisan lines and pushing crappy legislation through because "Fuck Obama!" they did the right thing and scrapped it.

This is an incredibly disingenuous take. They came up with a horrible plan, and 95% of them still voted for it despite it having sub-20% approval from the public.

Anyway, their efforts were doomed from the start because the criticisms they were making were totally dishonest. They were claiming that they had a plan that would eliminate everything that every group of people disliked about the ACA, which required a lot of contradictory promises. When it came time to actually craft their own plan, they had to resolve those contradictions--either by making healthcare more expensive to most people (the option they chose) or by increasing spending (and thus either taxes or deficits) by the gov't.

Ed: I see that ehtheist's hackish and dishonest defense had already been destroyed before I came in here.
 
Too many GOP legislators have constituencies that benefit from Obamacare thus they couldn't vote to repeal.
 
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