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two legends in a dream match. that's what it should be with the old guard
Sherdog made a Top 10 Greatest Heavyweights of All-Time article this year.I never got the big nog hype what are his 3 biggest wins not including ones from 20 years ago
If that were true Nog wouldn't have been able to out grappled Werdum when they were both in their 20s.
Werdum won ADCC gold at HW 6 months after the first match with Nog. So no, that is bullshit about his no-gi grappling being better now.Except Werdum peaked in his 30s both in grappling and MMA. Best version of Fabricio subs any version of Nog, even if he tries to avoid the ground like Nog did in Pride.
Yaah, how dare Herb Dean tell Nog to not punch the back of the head.
Are you kidding? He probably has the best HW resume of all time. Look at his wins:
Werdum
Barnett
Cro Cop
Kharitonov
Sylvia
Herring 3x
Ricco
Coleman
He is the 2nd greatest HW of all time behind only Fedor.
Werdum won ADCC gold at HW 6 months after the first match with Nog.
So no, that is bullshit about his grappling being better now.
So your argument is Werdum peaked his grappling 6 months after his match with Nogueira, therefore Werdum's grappling wasn't any good in PRIDE and vs Nog?ADCC Submission Wrestling World Championship
So he won his first ADCC gold the year he turned 30 years old? Thanks for proving my point jackass. You still missed it though because the point is Werdum's peak was in his 30s because he simply got better while getting bigger and stronger. You're deluded if you think Nog defeated a prime Werdum. Werdum peaked in MMA after that wake-up call against JDS, so that would be 2009.
- 2011 ADCC Submission Wrestling World Championships Silver Medalist
- 2009 ADCC Submission Wrestling World Championships Gold Medalist
- 2007 ADCC Submission Wrestling World Championships Gold Medalist
- 2005 ADCC Submission Wrestling World Championships Bronze Medalist
- 2003 ADCC Submission Wrestling World Championships Absolute Bronze Medalist
- 2003 ADCC Submission Wrestling World Championships Silver Medalist
readybody at his best... ahahahhaaahahExcept Werdum peaked in his 30s both in grappling and MMA. Best version of Fabricio subs any version of Nog, even if he tries to avoid the ground like Nog did in Pride.
He was a punching bag because he fought so many great fighters. He won most of the time though. From 2001 to 2008 he was either the #1 or #2 HW in the world.Werdum and couture are decent wins I guess from 10 years ago but I'm still not that impressed think he's over rated. Crocop was lhw so barely means anything.. don't mean to be a hater but he was literally a punching bag
Go watch Nog fight Sergei, Herring and Sylvia. Nog would have subbed Travis no problem.The fact mir beat him once in boxing and then the 2nd time by sub shows what level he's really at. He'd probably lose against Travis browne level fighters
Werdum's striking has improved but Nog basically outgrappled Werdum in their PRIDE fight. He beat him everywhere the fight went. Werdum may have improved his Muay Thai since then but that was a young and fast Werdum that was already BJJ God like status and Nog held his own in the grappling and won the fight.Also agree with other guy Werdum used to suck until the past 5 years or so he' really come Into his element
Somebody: Nog's an overrated grappler.readybody at his best... ahahahhaaahah
heck he would probably lose to u right, lmaoThe fact mir beat him once in boxing and then the 2nd time by sub shows what level he's really at. He'd probably lose against Travis browne level fighters
Umm no. Big Nog was thought of as a legend. I thought Mir got really lucky Herb Dean decided to interfere with the fight and tell Big Nog to stop punching Mir when Mir was about to be TKO'd and this caused Nog to stop striking and go for the submission and got submitted instead. The wrong person won
That's what most people think of the fight. Not wtf TS was saying. Mir got lucky
I do cry about it, Nog got cocky but man Herb really influenced the decision there. Nog was not throwing illegal strikes and after the warning he goes for the sub. Couple more strikes and the fight was a win for Nog.
he was not punching the back of the head
Hmmm...yeahh... wiki guys like readybody or the other dude only know about the fights and their outcome...Somebody: Nog's an overrated grappler.
Me: Nog out grappled Werdum in PRIDE.
Readybody: Werdum wasn't any good in PRIDE.
Me: Werdum was an ADCC gold medalist at this time.
Readybody: Werdum's a better striker now so the first match is irrelevant.
Me:
if mir beats fedor....it would be a nightmare for mma-pride fans (fedor-mirko-nog x2), almost the same if nelson beat fedor......