International Hamas launches surprise attack on Israel; Israel has declared a state of war. Vol. VII

[Chad R. Thundercock]

Obviously there's gonna be an element of propaganda to that story, but sure, if she's saying shit like that then revoke her student visa.

No issues.

I don't take the 'considered speech' she's given seriously as she's reading from an autocue.

Respect the UK hate speech laws, or...

No one will remember her or mourn her absence.

I wish I could see Germany do the same to these protesters calling for Sharia:



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[Siver!]

I wish I could see Germany do the same to these protesters calling for Sharia:



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Scholz has said there will be consequences, so I wouldn't worry about it.

They're just trying to emotionally manipulate you into believing that all protest is scary and dangerous.

They just want you to shut your mouth when the time comes you want to speak out.

 

[Chad R. Thundercock]

Scholz has said there will be consequences, so I wouldn't worry about it.

They're just trying to emotionally manipulate you into believing that all protest is scary and dangerous.

They just want you to shut your mouth when the time comes you want to speak out.

The German government banned the protests on the grounds that they're calling for the dismantling of the German constitution and government. These dumbass protesters are protesting against the ban.

I'm totally fine with a ban against protests that call for an Islamofascist government and Sharia. It's time to be intolerant against the intolerant.

 

[Siver!]

The German government banned the protests on the grounds that they're calling for the dismantling of the German constitution and government. These dumbass protesters are protesting against the ban.

Let them do whatever they're doing.

Don't rail against protest.

You're only advocating your own silence.

Case-by-case basis.

Someone commits hate speech, expect punishment. Someone protests legitimately, leave them the fuck alone.

 

[Chad R. Thundercock]

Let them do whatever they're doing.

Don't rail against protest.

You're only advocating your own silence.

Case-by-case basis.

Someone commits hate speech, expect punishment. Someone protests legitimately, leave them the fuck alone.

These idiots are calling for a fascist government to take over a democratic one. Sharia over the Western legal system. Islamic theocracy over a democracy.

There's need a line drawn in the sand when it comes to idiots advocating for something dangerous and stupid like this.

 

[Siver!]

These idiots are calling for a fascist government to take over a democratic one. Sharia over the Western legal system. Islamic theocracy over a democracy.

There's need a line drawn in the sand when it comes to idiots advocating for something dangerous and stupid like this.

Obviously.

Where the line stands, and how far they can move it by using outrage porn, is the danger.

The UK Tory government has been trying to do this for the last couple of years.

 

[HereticBD]

Exactly - the population doesn't dictate shit. So why are Israeli pundits people complaining "Why don't the Palestinians just surrender!?" Because they literally can't.

I'm not saying that. I'm not demanding an uprising. Perhaps a few strongly worded letters to their leaders, and a demonstration or two, but that's about it.

Israel is not the military that is supposed to feel sad about the Palestinian population's predicament. They are the enemy. It is Hamas' job to give a fuck about their own people and value their lives, and extend an olive branch to save them. If they don't care, the Palestinians are fucked, because Israel will not, and have absolutely no reason to let up.

Hence, why all of this is on Hamas. If they want to keep throwing their people into a thresher, it's on them. This is how war works. The winning side doesn't surrender to the losing side, because they're winning too much.

For instance, if America somehow found itself itself on the losing end of a war, whoever was kicking their ass, isn't going to give one flying fuck about whether or not little old you wants the war to end because you don't want to die and fear for your family. That shit must come from the top. Otherwise, the leaders will just continue on doing the same shit, and recruiting more and more people into their war effort, once you let off the gas pedal.

When you're beat, you surrender. If you don't surrender, the hellfire continues until you A)Finally surrender, or B)Lose even more than you would have, if you had just surrendered. That's war. It's not a debate club.

 

[Siver!]

I'm not saying that. I'm not demanding an uprising. Perhaps a few strongly worded letters to their leaders, and a demonstration or two, but that's about it.

Israel is not the military that is supposed to feel sad about the Palestinian population's predicament. They are the enemy. It is Hamas' job to give a fuck about their own people and value their lives, and extend an olive branch to save them. If they don't care, the Palestinians are fucked, because Israel will not, and have absolutely no reason to let up.

Hence, why all of this is on Hamas. If they want to keep throwing their people into a thresher, it's on them. This is how war works. The winning side doesn't surrender to the losing side, because they're winning too much.

For instance, if America somehow found itself itself on the losing end of a war, whoever was kicking their ass, isn't going to give one flying fuck about whether or not little old you wants the war to end because you don't want to die and fear for your family. That shit must come from the top. Otherwise, the leaders will just continue on doing the same shit, and recruiting more and more people into their war effort, once you let off the gas pedal.

When you're beat, you surrender. If you don't surrender, the hellfire continues until you A)Finally surrender, or B)Lose even more than you would have, if you had just surrendered. That's war. It's not a debate club.

I'm pretty sure there are cases of Palestinians (and Israelis) surrendering with white flags, and...

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There is an enormous difference between surrendering and being allowed to surrender.

 

[Chad R. Thundercock]

Obviously.

Where the line stands, and how far they can move it by using outrage porn, is the danger.

The UK Tory government has been trying to do this for the last couple of years.

It's not outrage porn. Did you see the original protest? The aim of these Islamists was not only to call for a global caliphate but to also intimidate.

 

[Siver!]

It's not outrage porn. Did you see the original protest? The aim of these Islamists was not only to call for a global caliphate but to also intimidate.

They won't establish a caliphate.

I am not intimidated.

 

[HereticBD]

I'm pretty sure there are cases of Palestinians (and Israelis) surrendering with white flags, and...

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There is an enormous difference between surrendering and being allowed to surrender.

Hamas, the government of Palestine, can indeed surrender. Quit making excuses for terrorists. It's pathetic.

 

[Siver!]

Hamas, the government of Palestine, can indeed surrender. Quit making excuses for terrorists. It's pathetic.

We know Hamas can surrender, we know they aren't going to.

Does that excuse the continued carnage?

Well we both know it's meaningless if civilians can't surrender because a man in Qatar says "no, we don't surrender" and it's even more meaningless if the man in Qatar isn't affected but the IDF keep shooting the people who don't want to keep dying.

 

[Hog-train]

I'm not saying that. I'm not demanding an uprising. Perhaps a few strongly worded letters to their leaders, and a demonstration or two, but that's about it.

Israel is not the military that is supposed to feel sad about the Palestinian population's predicament. They are the enemy. It is Hamas' job to give a fuck about their own people and value their lives, and extend an olive branch to save them. If they don't care, the Palestinians are fucked, because Israel will not, and have absolutely no reason to let up.

Hence, why all of this is on Hamas. If they want to keep throwing their people into a thresher, it's on them. This is how war works. The winning side doesn't surrender to the losing side, because they're winning too much.

For instance, if America somehow found itself itself on the losing end of a war, whoever was kicking their ass, isn't going to give one flying fuck about whether or not little old you wants the war to end because you don't want to die and fear for your family. That shit must come from the top. Otherwise, the leaders will just continue on doing the same shit, and recruiting more and more people into their war effort, once you let off the gas pedal.

When you're beat, you surrender. If you don't surrender, the hellfire continues until you A)Finally surrender, or B)Lose even more than you would have, if you had just surrendered. That's war. It's not a debate club.

I'm free to not want my government or tax dollars supporting it. Nor support the US constantly backing them against most of the world. It's not in the US interest. And I do not agree with your might is right no matter what philosophy either.

Your whole point is "It's war! Too bad that's just how it is!" So people can't disagree with a war or say anything about it? What is your point?

I don't agree with anything goes just because someone is in a war. And many, if not most people in the world, agrees with that. That's why we have this thing called war crimes.

 

[HereticBD]

We know Hamas can surrender, we know they aren't going to.

Does that excuse the continued carnage?

Umm, yes. That's how it works. What world are you living in, where Israel just packs up and leaves, and let Hamas rule over Palestine again? Those would be the people who started this war by attacking them.
If you're so very upset at the needless civilian deaths, you can point your finger at Hamas. How this simple logic escapes you and others, is beyond me. You think because Hamas is still mean mugging Israel after their nation has been obliterated, that somehow the fault of the civilian casualties falls on...Israel? Like that's some kind of strategy to ward your enemies off? Threaten them with your own civilians you're willing to let die? Yeah, no. It's all on Hamas. They can stop all the bombing right now, if they just admit defeat and surrender. Barring that, bombs away...

 

[HereticBD]

I'm free to not want my government or tax dollars supporting it.

Yeah, sure, but you've gone quite a bit further than protesting your money going to the war effort. You clearly have a preferred side in this war, that has little, if anything, to do with the US aiding Israel. You're just mad that your side is losing. You have all but forgotten about the 1000+ mutilated bodies and the 200+ hostages taken, that started this war and continues to fuel it. You don't give one flying fuck that Hamas, right at this moment, is still holding hostages and doing God knows what to them, if they haven't already killed them. It's like they don't even exist to you.

 

[Siver!]

Umm, yes. That's how it works. What world are you living in, where Israel just packs up and leaves, and let Hamas rule over Palestine again? Those would be the people who started this war by attacking them.
If you're so very upset at the needless civilian deaths, you can point your finger at Hamas. How this simple logic escapes you and others, is beyond me. You think because Hamas is still mean mugging Israel after their nation has been obliterated, that somehow the fault of the civilian casualties falls on...Israel? Like that's some kind of strategy to ward your enemies off? Threaten them with your own civilians you're willing to let die? Yeah, no. It's all on Hamas. They can stop all the bombing right now, if they just admit defeat and surrender. Barring that, bombs away...

Everyone in the world, barring a few extremists, have been pointing the finger at Hamas. The contingent with any common sense at all has since differentiated between Hamas and civilian (months ago, BTW).

You, though, are still stuck on trying to find reasons and excuses why civilians have to die because Hamas terrorists exist. You're the kind that pretends Hamas terrorists are so dangerous there's no option but to kill everyone in the vicinity.

Quite clearly that's a preposterous situation, and one you'll denounce in shame going forward (I'll remind you, don't worry). You want to blame Hamas for those deaths? Go ahead, if it makes you feel better. You want to pretend Hamas killed them? You're only lying to yourself at that point.

 

[Hog-train]

Yeah, sure, but you've gone quite a bit further than protesting your money going to the war effort. You clearly have a preferred side in this war, that has little, if anything, to do with the US aiding Israel. You're just mad that your side is losing. You have all but forgotten about the 1000+ mutilated bodies and the 200+ hostages taken, that started this war and continues to fuel it. You don't give one flying fuck that Hamas, right at this moment, is still holding hostages and doing God knows what to them, if they haven't already killed them. It's like they don't even exist to you.

You clearly have a side you prefer too. What's the problem with that? You're acting like that's somehow wrong.

Yea I don't want my tax dollars or government supporting it. And I'm against civilians getting killed in the thousands. Wow so controversial.

You keep making assumptions on what I think.

 

[HereticBD]

You, though, are still stuck on trying to find reasons and excuses why civilians have to die because Hamas terrorists exist.

No, civilians WILL die as Israel wages war against Hamas, because Hamas refuses to surrender. You want to reward Hamas for these tactics. That's absolutely pathetic, and will never not be pathetic.

 

[Anewt]

'We're telling them we exist': FIFA to discuss possible Israel expulsion as Palestine women's team makes history

The Palestine women's national team played its first-ever game in Europe this week as FIFA prepares for a potential vote regarding Israel's expulsion from world football at its annual Congress in Bangkok.

www.abc.net.au

FIFA to discuss possible Israel expulsion as Palestine women's team plays 'solidarity friendly' in Ireland

 

[Strychnine]

The German government banned the protests on the grounds that they're calling for the dismantling of the German constitution and government. These dumbass protesters are protesting against the ban.

I'm totally fine with a ban against protests that call for an Islamofascist government and Sharia. It's time to be intolerant against the intolerant.

I'm not worried about the Polizei (Germany's police force) handling business. I was the 3rd member of my family to be stationed there and my older brother told me (he actually saw this), that a drunken German man was causing a disturbance at a fest (giant community party where everyone drinks beer, sings songs, there's a carnival, and have a GREAT time).

They tried to talk to him, and he got angry and started fighting. Then they put the dog on him.

He kicked the dog.

HUGE MISTAKE.

They then took out a syringe, dog-piled him, took off his shoe, and extracted a blood sample from him.


From the bottom of his foot.

Before any people scream "INJUSTICE!!!", if you don't volunteer a sample when requested, the Polizei can TAKE it from you.

It is NOT the USA over there and you don't want to mess around and find out.

The Polizei have got this. Trust me.