International Hamas launches surprise attack on Israel; Israel has declared a state of war. Vol. VII

[Chad R. Thundercock]

Yeah you highlighted something important that never got brought up. The pro Israel posters dragged us all through the mad for supposedly falsely accusing Israel of bombing the hospital. I vaguely remember people getting banned for accusing Israel of bombing that hospital. They successfully bullshitted many of the most ardent Gaza supporters into thinking it was a failed rocket launch from a third party.

Israel then proceeded to destroy 30 more hospitals and it came out they destroyed that one too and they were full of shit the whole time. Did the pro Israeli posters apologize? God no they just walked away whistling and pretending nothing ever happened. Their strategy for everything.

The false accusation wasn't about the hospital being bombed. It was about the hundreds of Gazans who were killed by rocket fire near the hospital, which was erroneously attributed to Israel.

As for the hospitals being destroyed, blame that on Hamas for using them as human shields.

 

[ferrisjso]

The false accusation wasn't about bombing the hospital. It was about the hundreds of Gazans who were killed by rocket fire, which was erroneously blamed on Israel.

As for the hospitals being destroyed, blame that on Hamas for using them as human shields.

JFC.

You care more about an unintentional rocket malfunction then 30 fucking hospital massacres.

 

[Snubnoze707]

Yeah you highlighted something important that never got brought up. The pro Israel posters dragged us all through the mad for supposedly falsely accusing Israel of bombing the hospital. I vaguely remember people getting banned for accusing Israel of bombing that hospital. They successfully bullshitted many of the most ardent Gaza supporters into thinking it was a failed rocket launch from a third party.

Israel then proceeded to destroy 30 more hospitals and it came out they destroyed that one too and they were full of shit the whole time. Did the pro Israeli posters apologize or admit they wrong? God no they just walked away whistling and pretending nothing ever happened. Their strategy for everything.

Probably the most shameful thing thats ever happened in the WR if we're being honest. And thats a high bar to set too.

Even worse, not only do they not admit to being wrong, they still argue as if they were right. The fact that I had to just defend my stance (the right one) on that topic at this date is absurd.

 

[Chad R. Thundercock]

JFC.

You care more about an unintentional rocket malfunction then 30 fucking hospital massacres.

You're an idiot.

First of all, I do care about false accusations being thrown at Israel, especially when they deal with killings that were actually caused by Hamas.

Second, what massacres do you speak of? The Hamas terrorists that barricaded themselves in the hospitals? Then good fucking riddance to them and I hope more of them die.

Tankie dipshit. Get yourself a one-way ticket to North Korea and go sing praises of communism there to your heart's content.

 

[Phisher]

More Zionist cry bullying at the University of Toronto. This guy so obviously wants to get behind the barricade so that he can lie about being assaulted in the media.

 

[ferrisjso]

You're an idiot.

First of all, I do care about false accusations being thrown at Israel, especially when they deal with killings that were actually caused by Hamas.

Second, what massacres do you speak of? The Hamas terrorists that barricaded themselves in the hospitals? Then good fucking riddance to them and I hope more of them die.

Tankie dipshit. Get yourself a one-way ticket to North Korea and go sing praises of communism there to your heart's content.

Hey 0.5 out of 31 massacres were misleading. Thats what you care about.

Tankies are humanitys only hope. Fuck you.

North Korea betrayed socialism in the 70s stfu.

 

[Chad R. Thundercock]

Hey 0.5 out of 31 massacres were misleading. Thats what you care about.

Tankies are humanitys only hope. Fuck you.

North Korea betrayed socialism in the 70s stfu.

What the fuck do you mean by 0.5 out of 31 massacres?

Is this tankie mathematics?

 

[ferrisjso]

What the fuck do you mean by 0.5 out of 31 massacres?

Is this tankie mathematics?

They destroyed 31 hospitals after that. Yet you're fixated by 1 explosion in 1 parking lot to muddy the waters.

The whole premise of the outrage is that we were accusing Israel of intentionally attacking a hospital. They proceeded to do that 30 times in broad daylight and no one gave af. And yall never apologized and never will.

 

[Chad R. Thundercock]

They destroyed 31 hospitals after that. Yet you're fixated by 1 explosion in 1 parking lot to muddy the waters.

The whole premise of the outrage is that we were accusing Israel of intentionally attacking a hospital. They proceeded to do that 30 times in broad daylight and no one gave af. And yall never apologized and never will.

IDF soldiers were being attacked by Hamas terrorists who were barricading themselves in the hospitals. Did you expect these soldiers to throw their hands up in the air and go, "Aw nuts! They've barricaded themselves in the hospital. Now we can't attack them anymore!"

Get the fuck out of here with this naive bullshit.

 

[ferrisjso]

IDF soldiers were being attacked by Hamas terrorists who were barricading themselves in the hospitals. Did you expect these soldiers to throw their hands up in the air and go, "Aw nuts! They've barricaded themselves in the hospital. Now we can't attack them anymore!"

Get the fuck out of here with this naive bullshit.

Again Hamas is not universally considered a terrorist organization. They are considered by many as resistance that have a right to defend themselves. The US state department declared them terrorists. The main reason Hamas are considered terrorists is so you can smear anyone supporting them and justify violence against anyone in Gaza you please because you can say anyone is Hamas and if they are Hamas they deserve death.

Its the Heretic DB argument where power dynamics equals an endorsement of power dynamics. We can all acknowledge the former without agreeing on the latter. People who are anti right wing governments want the Likud defeated just like you want Hamas defeated and there is a failure to compute that on your part. To our side Hamas is the imperfect side with moral issues acting in self defense against the right wing govt. You operate with the assumption everyone should be supporting the IDF so they have to affirmatively prove why that isn't the case.

 

[Hog-train]

Still no comment on the North Korean agent who was spreading DPRK propaganda on NYU's campus.

Sure, bud. Just be selective about what you want to respond to.

North Korean agent in NYU? Ok? No idea WTF you're talking about so why would I comment on it?

What does that have to do with Israel and Palestine.

 

[Chad R. Thundercock]

Again Hamas is not universally considered a terrorist organization. They are considered by many as resistance that have a right to defend themselves. The US state department declared them terrorists. The main reason Hamas are considered terrorists is so you can smear anyone supporting them and justify violence against anyone in Gaza you please because you can say anyone is Hamas and if they are Hamas they deserve death.

Its the Heretic DB argument where power dynamics equals an endorsement of power dynamics. We can all acknowledge the former without agreeing on the latter. People who are anti right wing governments want the Likud defeated just like you want Hamas defeated and there is a failure to compute that on your part. To our side Hamas is the imperfect side with moral issues acting in self defense against the right wing govt. You operate with the assumption everyone should be supporting the IDF so they have to affirmatively prove why that isn't the case.

Hamas is recognized as a terrorist organization by the near-entirety of Western Civilization, i.e., the only countries worth living in, i.e., the countries that most immigrants seek to flock to. Whatever occurred on 10/7 was most definitely not a defensive manuever by a group of "resistance fighter." It was an act of terrorism. Do you think what occurred at the Crocus City Hall in your tankie paradise of Ruzzia was an act of defense by resistance fighters sent by ISIS-K?

 

[Chad R. Thundercock]

North Korean agent in NYU? Ok? No idea WTF you're talking about so why would I comment on it? What does that have to do with Israel and Palestine.

Lulz. Look at you, pretending that you didn't see the post that I tagged you in. Here, I'll post it here again:

 

[ferrisjso]

North Korean agent in NYU? Ok? No idea WTF you're talking about so why would I comment on it?

What does that have to do with Israel and Palestine.

Hes fishing for something the protesters are clearly wrong about as an excuse to DQ everything they say. Or do the whole Russigate thing where "they are paid by x state actor".

While being a tankie is a point of immense pride for me he knows in spaces like this its more of an insult and this is why he instantly started going "tankie", "tankie math".

 

[ferrisjso]

Hamas is recognized as a terrorist organization by the near-entirety of Western Civilization, i.e., the only countries worth living in, i.e., the countries that most immigrants seek to flock to. Whatever occurred on 10/7 was most definitely not a defensive manuever by a group of "resistance fighter." It was an act of terrorism. Do you think what occurred at the Crocus City Hall in your tankie paradise of Ruzzia was an act of defense by resistance fighters sent by ISIS-K?

Woah the fact you actually think this map helps your case just shows how weak your case is. Your just proving my point. Your just proving that the west uses the phrase "terrorist" as a political battering ram to smear their enemies and that people and govts that don't support the current world order overwhelmingly reject Hamas as a terrorist organization.

Immigrants flock to those place because the west destroyed their homes. Also these countries have fascists and fascists want to move to neolib countries away from countries hostile to their sociopathy. No surprises there. Its a mixture of both.

 

[Hog-train]

Lulz. Look at you, pretending that you didn't see the post that I tagged you in. Here, I'll post it here again:

A little narcissistic thinking I'm following your every post no? I ignore half the useless drivel you spew.

North Korea supports Palestine. And? I don't give a shit.

WTF does that random fact have to do with the conflict?

 

[Chad R. Thundercock]

A little narcissistic thinking I'm following your every post no? I ignore half the useless drivel you spew.

North Korea supports Palestine. And? I don't give a shit.

Hey, the feeling's mutual, you pompous jackass. I couldn't give a damn about your nonsensical writings, but I find it amusing that you replied to almost every single one of my post directed at you except for that one.

I brought her up to support my case about outside agitators sent by foreign governments to disseminate propaganda on school campuses and indoctrinate students. But you've conveniently forgotten about what we were talking about, of course. Who cares about context and shit?

 

[kflo]

Fucking rich. Complete lack of self awareness. I've been significantly more balanced than you.

you're one of the obvious haters in the forum.

Using Hamas as an excuse for a ground invasion was the whole entire point, you imbecile. Thanks for backing up my claim. "Propping them up" with funding was when they were already in power, and that is a proven fact. Again, you try and create strawman arguments when you are wrong.

you tried to claim they propped hamas ENABLING them to TAKE control of gaza, because you wanted to imply that's what they WANTED. but of course you weren't being honest.

Wrong again. Deeper investigation proved that was an Israeli strike, not a rouge Hamas missile as you claimed. You acted like it was impossible for the IDF to attack a hospital in this instance, then they went on to do a full scale massacre at one in recent months.

another lie.

Not debunked. You've never even debated me on that topic. I forgot I even brought that up.

another lie. and again, there's a reason you brought it up in the first place. it's not because you're interested in the truth.

I don't give a shit about Hamas. I can actually criticize them, you don't criticize Israel for anything and you certainly want them to remain in power. I've always argued on behalf of the Palestinian civilians, which you don't give a shit about.

you care enough about hamas to want them to retain power in gaza. and that shows how much you actually care about the civilians of gaza.

 

[Hog-train]

Hey, the feeling's mutual, you pompous jackass. I couldn't give a damn about your nonsensical writings, but I find it amusing that you replied to almost every single one of my post directed at you except for that one.

I brought her up to support my case about outside agitators sent by foreign governments to disseminate propaganda on school campuses and indoctrinate students. But you've conveniently forgotten about what we were talking about, of course. Who cares about context and shit?

You don't give a shit yet you're tagging me and replying to me with some completely irrelevant North Korea post. This is the first time I've seen this Reddit video. Why would I comment on something I have zero knowledge about.

WTF does this Asian student talking about North Korea have to do with them disseminating propaganda. If anything, it looks like this student is exposing North Korea.

Stop going down irrelevant tangents.

 

[Snubnoze707]

A little narcissistic thinking I'm following your every post no? I ignore half the useless drivel you spew.

It's better to just ignore 100% of it. One of the better decisions I've made recently.