Former greats that could return to peak form?

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  1. KB Warrior

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    Is there anyone out there you think that can return to their prior glory?

    Possible Candidates:

    Brock
    Aldo
    Weidman
    Pettis
    Condit
    Melendez
    Cain
    Hendricks
    Cruz
    Shogun
    Rashad
    Lyoto
     
  2. Parang

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    Shogun for sure still has it, hes only 36-37. If Jose wins a couple fights, he counts too. If Rafael wins against Colby, thats a resurgence of sorts. Funny how all my examples are Brazilians. Those fucks dont give up
     
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    Cain Velasquez.
     
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    Cain if he makes it out of a training camp.
     
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    maybe cain and weidman
     
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    None one them can return to peak form.

    "peak" is called "peak" for a reason. There is only one peak.
     
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    GSP did it. And would likely look much better at WW. Or possibly LW like he talked about.

    Idk, I kind of hope he retires for good. Or gets a guaranteed shot at the LW belt. Or a new 165 like has been rumored. No other fight interests me for him. The only thing that can help his legacy is a third belt. While any loss would tarnish his legacy a little bit.

    But you know assholes in here would never let us forget if he ever loses again. They’re still holding on to shit from a decade ago to try to discredit him.
     
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  9. MMA4Life

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    I could see Weidman stringing some wins together. Seems most possible based on that list.
     
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    cain has the best shot of anyone on that list. if he's healthy he can beat any HW. werdum had his number but werdum is getting old and looked it in his last fight.

    aldo can still be champ if holloway somehow gets removed from the equation.

    cruz can obviously beat TJ, but then has to deal with cody again.

    weidman might be able to do it on a good night, but i wouldn't give him good odds against any of romero, rockhold or whittaker.

    no way brock beats stipe, but as weak as HW is, if you take stipe away I guess it's possible.

    the rest of the guys on that list are shot.
     
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    Agree in that rda had quite a resurgence.. Aldo lost to max twice if he beats Stephens he never really fell off that far.
     
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    Weedman
    Cain
    Cruz
     
  13. Parang

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    Conor did it too though, so 3 losses in a few years is not Aldos peak form. I agree that theres no shame in losing to Max though.
    If youre ever gonna count out Jose, or DC, or Joanna, I remind you of the story of Benson and Cowboy. Benson beat him twice, then Cowboy won the third
     
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    Give Vitor Belfort his TRT back and watch the magic happen
     
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    Shogun has won 3 in a row, and should be taken way more seriously than Wiedman or Brock
     
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    Call me crazy, but I think Ken Shamrock has another good run left in him.
     
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    Nice question. It seems that returning to the top may be even more difficult than getting there the first time. I'd say (and really hope) that shogun can do it. Also Wiedman might.
     
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    Brock - Still an elite athlete/wrestler in a thin division who hasn't taken much damage; can win money fights
    Aldo - Looked good before gassing against cardio machine current champ; hasn't declined much and still dangerous
    Weidman - Still a high level gatekeeper but injury prone and very unlikely to win a belt again
    Pettis - Mentally shot, too many holes in game, will never be elite again
    Condit - 100% done, possibly 1 more fight before retirement but too battle torn to go past that
    Melendez - Done; too many wars/not exceptional at anything to make him stand out anymore
    Cain - 1 win in 5 years over a punching bag = done; likely 1 more injury away from retirement
    Hendricks - Full time job at fast food joint for employee discount
    Cruz - Can likely get a big money title fight based on name value but constant injury makes him a big question mark. Most likely to regain elite form but still questionable
    Shogun - Battle worn but on a streak in a very thin division against a beatable contender; could fight for the title again and likely has a few more big fights left before retirement
    Rashad - Mentally shot; hasn't had a good performance since beating Tito in 2011, should retire
    Lyoto - Taken far too much damage in recent years; should retire win/loss against Vitor

    Ranked: Cruz, Aldo, Weidman, Brock, Shogun, Cain, Melendez, Pettis, Lyoto, Condit, Rashad, Hendricks
     
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    Brock because he doesn't give a shit about USADA and because HW is weak right now.

    Champion : Stipe Miocic
    1 Francis Ngannou

    2 Alistair Overeem

    3 Alexander Volkov

    4 Curtis Blaydes

    5 Fabricio Werdum

    6 Derrick Lewis

    6 Mark Hunt

    8 Marcin Tybura

    9 Andrei Arlovski

    10 Aleksei Oleinik

    11 Stefan Struve

    12 Tai Tuivasa

    13 Shamil Abdurakhimov

    14 Junior Albini

    15 Justin Willis

    Brock would be the rightful favorite over all of them except Stipe, Reem and maybe Blaydes, Werdum, Oleyinik, and Ngannou.
     

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