fighters being stood up/separated for “inactivity” a

[Toco]

because if they don't do that, a lot of fights would be boring as fuck

 

[jonathan274]

I'm with you. I say bring back the yellow card system. I prefer the fighters that would just as soon put on a good fight as to win a boring decision. Not enough of that mentality these days. Too many guys would rather get boo'd by the crowd for a boring decision win

PRIDE was superior in that respect. Also, War Slampage!

 

[Fahcough]

because strikers always bring in the money, grappling equality loses fans. Same reason they allowed women in.

 

[Shaddows]

So in your eyes if a round ends with one fighter in a dominant position should the next round be re-started in that position? Genuinely curious/asking.

in my opinion, that would be the fair thing to do.
After all, think about a guy like Damian Maia.
How fair is it to him, if he worked up a takedown and have someone in trouble, and then the round ends and they reset to a standing position?

In a fight, this never happens, so I don't see why it should happen in MMA.

In that aspect, a striker has a huge advantage against a ground specialist because of it.

 

[NoContest]

Get rid of standups. It'll force guys to work from the bottom instead of holding on and waiting for the ref to stop it. That'll create openings for the guy on top.

Also, take points from the guy on top for inactivity just like you would with the stand-up which is very rarely.

 

[magicmarker]

I hate seeing breaks or standups for inactivity in the first two rounds. It could be strategy to gas the other guy, adrenaline dump.

I don't mind it as much in rounds 3, 4 and 5 though.

 

[AssassinFacedBaby]

Stand ups happen for inactivity in judo and bjj competition as well.

Don’t tell them that

 

[grimballer]

So in your eyes if a round ends with one fighter in a dominant position should the next round be re-started in that position? Genuinely curious/asking.

That would make sense if a fight is scored as a whole n rounds are only there to give fighters a break

However if you already win a round, there’s no point of going to the same position

 

[grimballer]

Or in MMA, between rounds. Of course.

I am referring to mid action, not rule designated break periods.

Usually there are rules/timers in place to get the action going

The ref for the most part can’t just interfere n take your possession at anytime he wants cause of “inactivity”

That’s like in football giving the ball to the other team cause you choose to run for short yards, while ref wants to to pass this ball more

 

[grimballer]

I don't like the idea of a timer tbh.. i like how it is now: referee sees the fight is going nowhere, he stands them up. Has some flaws, but keeps the fights going in general.

Haven't seen a lot bad decisions in that regard.

Well there was that rumble/vitor fight, where the ref was standing them up like it was a kickboxing fight

Also Rory/Lima fight this past weekend was also an example of a ref just eager to stand them up

 

[grimballer]

Because "real fights" don't have a timer and a few rounds before it goes to somebody's decision of who won. Or you could just watch wrestling tourneys instead of mma...

Why don’t you watch kickboxing if you don’t like grappling part?

 

[MarkHematominick]

Why don’t you watch kickboxing if you don’t like grappling part?

I never said I didn't like grappling, I was helping explain why fighters get stood up for inactivity against the argument that it wouldn't happen in a "real fight", and thats because there is a time limit, and holding somebody down big brother style for the duration of a fight that people paid money to see is just not as cool as mixing it up and restarting on the feet once in a while.

 

[ralphus1]

Go watch Kimbo-Dada, it might change your opinion.

 

[RiskiestCookie]

K, but what if you add some type of timer that gives a fighter 1 minute on the ground n let’s say extra 30 seconds very time he improves his position?

I believe elitexc had this

 

[grimballer]

I never said I didn't like grappling, I was helping explain why fighters get stood up for inactivity against the argument that it wouldn't happen in a "real fight", and thats because there is a time limit, and holding somebody down big brother style for the duration of a fight that people paid money to see is just not as cool as mixing it up and restarting on the feet once in a while.

Well every round starts on the feet, so a fighter has 3 or 5 do overs from the start

N it’s mma, fighters shouldn’t be rewarded for sucking at some aspects of the game

If a fighter is on the ground or pressed against the cage, it’s on him to get out of that position

Now I know it’s a sport that favours striking over grappling, but in that case they should give grapplers some time frame to work their game.

So that’s why I said if the ref gonna interfere, at least give the fighter a specific amount of time he gets to work n then if he’s active give him additional time

 

[Jorge Luis Borges]

it’s suppose to be mma n closest thing to a real fight

Grappling n clinching are parts of mma n are legal techiniques n within the rules

So why separate fighters when in those position for “inactivity”?

If issue is “it’s not fan friendly”

Then perhaps there should be some type of timer everytime the fight goes on the ground/against the cage n fight is rest after timer runs out

Fighters a separated at times for the very obvious reason that fights where grappling has stalemated are really damn boring.

Big John invented the ref stand up on his own during the rematch between Gracie and Ken Shamrock, which was a pretty damn boring fight. And for that he will forever have my gratitude.

 

[podsox]

If you don't have standups you will literally have guys laying on dudes not trying anything to advance to steal rds. Good luck selling that sport

 

[moogie101]

With the introduction of rounds I don't think there should be much call for stand-ups. Obviously if it is complete stalling & some guy's just being a blanket then warn him twice & then stand them up. But recently we've seen stand-ups where guys are throwing or moving into dominant positions.

It is MMA after all not kickboxing so if you don't want to be on the ground spend more time practising takedown defence or techniques for getting yourself back to your feet. You shouldn't be saved by the referee.

 

[po_thead]

There were some horseshit standups on Saturday!

 

[the ambush]

There is inactivity in grappling justified in ref intervention then there is bullshit stand-up like Wanderlei-Rampage 2.