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To be fair, he ended the argument after he was proved wrong
Elon Musk overdoses on red pills and attacks MSM in revolutionary and controversial tweets
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To be fair, he ended the argument after he was proved wrong
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Elon Musk was never my friend - people who no respect nothing
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More libertarian, but right-wing. They do often post about non-ideological issues.
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He’s one of the greatest minds of our time. You’re a bitter loser. Have some class. You’re embarrassing yourself.
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Seriously, can any of you actually point to his innovations that have sprung from his intellect/prowess as opposed to his financing and management? @Madmick
Again, this reeks of the same ignorant praise given to Steve Jobs because he was the face attributed to actual innovators beneath him.
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@Elon Musk is this true?
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Sometimes you gotta just take a deep breath and say you were wrong. It's really not that hard once you do it.
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Your comparison of Jobs to Musk with regard to technical contributions to their products is only making you look more ignorant. Musk is the opposite of Jobs in this way. Does the founder of a company literally have to do EVERYTHING as a sole proprietorship to gain any respect from you?
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Leave the guy alone before he starts making Terminators.
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This is from Jim Cantrell
"I helped Elon start the company and all of these answers are spot on. He still has my book on rocket propulsion.....
What I found from working with Elon is that he starts by defining a goal and he puts a lot of effort into understanding what that goal is and why it is a good and valid goal. His goal, as I see it, has not changed from the day he first called me in August of 2001. I still hear it in his speeches. His goal was to make mankind a multi planetary species and to do that he had to first solve the transportation problem.
Once he has a goal, his next step is to learn as much about the topic at hand as possible from as many sources as possible. He is by far the single smartest person that I have ever worked with ... period. I can't estimate his IQ but he is very very intelligent. And not the typical egg head kind of smart. He has a real applied mind. He literally sucks the knowledge and experience out of people that he is around. He borrowed all of my college texts on rocket propulsion when we first started working together in 2001. We also hired as many of my colleagues in the rocket and spacecraft business that were willing to consult with him. It was like a gigantic spaceapalooza. At that point we were not talking about building a rocket ourselves, only launching a privately funded mission to Mars. I found out later that he was talking to a bunch of other people about rocket designs and collaborating on some spreadsheet level systems designs for launchers. Once our dealings with the Russians fell apart, he decided to build his own rocket and this was the genesis of SpaceX.
So I am going to suggest that he is successful not because his visions are grand, not because he is extraordinarily smart and not because he works incredibly hard. All of those things are true. The one major important distinction that sets him apart is his inability to consider failure. It simply is not even in his thought process. He cannot conceive of failure and that is truly remarkable. It doesn't matter if its going up against the banking system (Paypal), going up against the entire aerospace industry (SpaceX) or going up against the US auto industry (Tesla). He can't imagine NOT succeeding and that is a very critical trait that leads him ultimately to success. He and I had very similar upbringings, very similar interests and very similar early histories. He was a bit of a loner and so was I. He decided to start a software company at age 13. I decided to design and build my own stereo amplifier system at age 13. Both of us succeeded at it. We both had engineers for fathers and were extremely driven kids. What separated us, I believe, was his lack of even being able to conceive failure. I know this because this is where we parted ways at SpaceX. We got to a point where I could not see it succeeding and walked away. He didn't and succeeded. I have 25 years experience building space hardware and he had none at the time. So much for experience.
I recently wrote an op-ed piece for Space News where I also suggest that his ruthlessly efficient way to deploy capital is another great reason for his success. He can almost smell the right way through a problem and he drives his staff and his organization hard to achieve it. The results speak for themselves. The article is here End of WWII Model Shakes Up Aerospace Industry.
In the end I think that we are seeing a very fundamental shift in the way our world takes on the big challenges facing humanity and Elon's Way as I call it will be considered the tip of the spear. My hat's off to the man."
https://www.quora.com/How-did-Elon-Musk-learn-enough-about-rockets-to-create-and-run-SpaceX
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That's really pushing it. He is a great entrepreneur and knows how to get he right people together, like Jobbs, but the people doing the heavy lift (pun intended) are the engineers coming up with the solutions. I think it is a disservice to the nameless engineers to ignore their contribution.
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Did someone call those engineers charlatans?
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Not that I am aware of. I was just saying that the folks who make things work are the engineers, but the post I was responding to made it seem like Musk deserves the primary credit.
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If it could be done well and was non partisan, that would actually be a pretty cool website.
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I actually had this idea over 10 years ago, but it was about politicians.
Nothing but facts and grades based on promises.
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LOLOL YEN!
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You act as if I'm saying he's an idiot.
I'm not. I'm saying he's not a generational genius and that tech really doesn't operate on the basis of the individual genius of CEO's. To that extent, yeah, his smug presentation of himself as some intellectual deity is that of a charlatan.
I do that frequently. I just haven't been given any persuasive arguments other than "omg space ships" from persons who immediately just associate "Elon Musk" with genius.
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By all accounts, Musk seems to be incredibly intelligent, and was making millions off of his intelligence years before he became famous, or anyone really invested in him.
