Does the general public consider grappling as fighting?

orangeclay said:
I am not a fan of the term "fighting" to cover anything except street fighting or actual combat. If there are rules and refs then it is not a fight.
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ref or no ref gsp will still get the takedown and still pummel a dudes face...its a fight either way imo

I agree with you on this for straight up boxing, muay thai and not mma or vale tudo
 
The general public thinks something is a fight if the winner expended maximum effort. A tennis match is more of a fight than BJJ if it is even and it runs the men to the limit.

If two guys go no rules with swords and it is totally one sided, people still won't call it a fight.

If you pull guard and toe hold me in 10 seconds, not a fight.

If we arm wrestle for 6 minutes and the winner is injured, "wow, what a fight."
 
I only consider it a fight if you are trying to hurt the other person. I try to hurt people in boxing and in MMA.

I never intend to hurt people in BJJ. If I went in a competition with the intention to break someone's arm, than yeah that's be a fight.
 
Don't know what the general population calls it but I don't call a Bjj or any grappling competition a fight. I call if a grappling match.

I believe strikes must be part of it for it to be a fight..
 
Kforcer said:
What is BattleBang?
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Its a 2 round "combat" competition, where you have a grappling round, and then a striking round.

The winner gets to have sex with a pornstar, but the competition is real.
 
I don't know. I mean, I think that grappling is a controlled fight at least. Wrestling seems to me to be a lot like a fight, especially given that in freestyle wrestling and even folk-wrestling one is supposed to endure all sorts of contortions, manipulations and punishments at the hand of one's opponent in order to avoid a pin-fall. Although, in folkstyle wrestling, a lot of that owes itself to half-awake referees.
 
Different people probably thing different things

I recently chatted with a guy who wanted to argue what he was doing was "sparring", even though he was hitting people with plastic swords. When I told them that real sparring often involved guys getting injured or KO'd he got really butt hurt.

Some other dude had no idea judo allowed chokes or arm locks and was convinced non contact Japanese Jiujitsu was more dangerous. I had a good laugh at that.

I used to think only MMA guys and boxers were prize fighting or fighters, but I realized grappling practice and competition can be just as hard and dangerous.

So now I think what I am doing is a type of prize fighting and I think of myself as a prize fighter. The prize is just more abstract.
 
A Muse of Fire said:
I recently chatted with a guy who wanted to argue what he was doing was "sparring", even though he was hitting people with plastic swords.
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Sounds like sparring to me. Isn't sparring simply to go "live", i.e., to attempt to execute and defend techniques in real-time against a resisting partner?
 
SummerStriker said:
The general public thinks something is a fight if the winner expended maximum effort. A tennis match is more of a fight than BJJ if it is even and it runs the men to the limit.

If two guys go no rules with swords and it is totally one sided, people still won't call it a fight.

If you pull guard and toe hold me in 10 seconds, not a fight.

If we arm wrestle for 6 minutes and the winner is injured, "wow, what a fight."
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This, also I guess it's cultural/linguistic stuff because BJJ matchs are starting with the Portuguese "combate" which despite a different pronounciation is similar enough with the English "combat".
 
The public does not think it is fighting.
Only bjj guys thinks that they fight and that they are fighters. Lol.
They post on FB that they are cutting for their fights.
They posed on pictures with the closed fist like a UFC fighter.
All about mkt.
 
I mean, they shouldn't. It's not a fight.

real fights have brain damage as a risk, if not worse

SummerStriker said:
The general public thinks something is a fight if the winner expended maximum effort. A tennis match is more of a fight than BJJ if it is even and it runs the men to the limit.

If two guys go no rules with swords and it is totally one sided, people still won't call it a fight.

If you pull guard and toe hold me in 10 seconds, not a fight.

If we arm wrestle for 6 minutes and the winner is injured, "wow, what a fight."
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I feel like you're off base here. People refer to a hard fought match as a fight because they're alluding to a boxing or mma fight which goes back and forth. They know that they're drawing a comparison to a fight but they aren't actually confusing a hard fought tennis match as a fight whatsoever, in that context it just means hard fought

if you cut someone in half in a sword battle that was one sided no one will say that they weren't fighting for their lifes, it was a fight. obviously
 
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I saw Dillon Danis Instagram profile it said "Jiu Jitsu Fighter", it reminded me of this thread

 
Not sure about the general public, but at least in Canada the law considers many parts of grappling to fighting. Some parts of it - choking and heavy throws for instance - are considered to be very serious fighting.

And I suspect even the general public considers choking to be a serious assault (ie a fight).


But actually, thinking about it, 'fight' is a very general word. The general public also considers people yelling angrily at each other fighting (most of the time if someone talks about having a fight with their boss or family they mean a verbal fight, and no one has problems calling that a fight).
 
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