Did Francis embarrass the sport of MMA

[don't ask]

You've never gotten laid much, have you?

You've never hit puberty, have you?

 

[markg171]

Not at all, he arguably beat Fury and then just happened to face a guy who is just as explosive and Athletic while being a lot younger in Anthony Joshua, who has been boxing since he was a kid

Anthony Joshua is 34 while Francis is 37.

Joshua started boxing at 18 vs Francis at 22.

 

[Fedora Millionankles]

It took AJ 2 minutes to knock Francis down once. 1 and a half rounds to make him sleep. I don't think that argument holds.

He floored him 3 times in 4 minutes in boxing all with a basic right hand. No guarantee it goes any differently and since there’s no knockdown rule in MMA, no guarantee Francis ever makes it back to his feet before being finished on the ground.

 

[ferrisjso]

He floored him 3 times in 4 minutes in boxing all with a basic right hand. No guarantee it goes any differently and since there’s no knockdown rule in MMA, no guarantee Francis ever makes it back to his feet before being finished on the ground.

In an MMA fight that would not have been good enough.

MM says AJ could beat Francis because he says AJ apparently has something resembling TDD. If that is true AJ could beat Francis in MMA. But that's seperate from the idea AJ would KO Francis before that ever became relevant. From what we've seen in boxing that is simply not true.

 

[HoeBrogan]

Okay but why would Ngannou go for a takedown in a street fight?

The guy stood with the likes of Arlovski, Overeem, Stipe x2, Lewis, Cain, JDS, Roz, Gane, etc even though standing was their best bet to win too. He only took down Gane late in the fight because of his injured knee holding him back, otherwise we know he apparently otherwise KO'd Gane in their sparring together. He's also stood with Fury and AJ, though obviously yes boxing forces that unlike MMA. If he ever comes back to MMA he's also probably standing with Ferreira, and if he'd instead fought Jones years ago he'd have stood with him too.

The idea that Francis is suddenly shooting takedowns in a street fight is nonsensical. Francis is a striker. The man believes he can knock out anybody and has never had any problem standing with great strikers to try and prove that. It's his best chance of victory too as when he lands people go out.

Like put it this way and replace AJ with Fury in said hypothetical street fight. Anybody here think Francis is immediately shooting, going for a rolling omaplata on him, or anything to avoid striking with him? I bet there's quite a lot of you saying that well no, against Fury Francis would probably strike a bit with him... because he already thinks he can. Against Fury the takedown would be his backup plan in case he was losing a lot worse than their previous fight went.

People are only saying he wouldn't risk striking with AJ because they've got the benefit of hindsight of just how bad of an idea that would be now. Before the fight plenty of people were saying he could strike with AJ and beat him, especially pointing out that AJ's chin was worse than Fury's and AJ might not get up like Fury did. They know now that's not true.

Truth is AJ's probably the only man alive Francis is scared to strike with now and so wouldn't risk it against specifically him. Anybody else in a street fight? Yeah, Francis is throwing his nuclear hands.

So if they fought now in a streetfight and francis tries to take aj down who is more likely to win?

 

[Fedora Millionankles]

Look at the entire history of MMA and why people started mixing martial arts in the first place and look particularly at how one-dimensional strikers (especially boxers) do. There's your vast body of evidence.

I don't particularly feel like spending my time repeating the same thing to someone who can only arrive at their opinion if they're intentionally being as stupid as possible, so I'm am tapping out of talking with you.

And yet since 93’, not one elite boxer in their prime has ever crossed over to MMA. Your vast body of experience has no correlation to AJ, an elite top 3 HW in his prime, fighting in MMA. There simply are no examples to draw from in the history of the UFC.
You hurl insults but everything from your misinterpretation of data to shoddy sentence structure proves that not only are you low IQ, but a fraud, Dunning-Kruger rep who tries to present yourself as an intellectual but is an obvious uninitiated buffoon with no experience in either sport.

 

[Fedora Millionankles]

So if they fought now in a streetfight and francis tries to take aj down who is more likely to win?

So if Francis just attempts to take AJ down, AJ has no chance to catch him coming in? Fights start standing so until they actually fight, all we can do is speculate that D1 Ngannou would just blast double through the AJ’s punches.

 

[sanguinius]

And yet since 93’, not one elite boxer in their prime has ever crossed over to MMA. Youre vast body of experience has no correlation to AJ, an elite top 3 HW in his prime, fighting in MMA. There simply are on examples to draw from in the history of the UFC.
You hurl insults but everything from your misinterpretation of data to shoddy sentence structure proves that not only are you low IQ, but a fraud, Dunning-Kruger rep who tries to present yourself as an intellectual but is an obvious uninitiated bafoon with no experience in either sports.

It’s buffoon.

 

[markg171]

So if they fought now in a streetfight and francis tries to take aj down who is more likely to win?

The point is Francis is only shooting for a takedown and grappling Joshua now that he knows Joshua knocks him out otherwise.

Pre-fight Francis would've just stood with AJ like he's stood with dozens of great striker's. The guy's a striker himself with a nuclear hand he thinks can knock out anybody.

It's uh, you know, kinda literally the entire reason he agreed to box Joshua in the first place.

 

[Tyler Durden]

Whats embarrassing is weirdo losers sitting at home who think their opinion matters.

Says the loser who's been expressing his opinion on here since 2010.

 

[Khaiser]

There are massive parts of MMA that aren’t just ineffectual in ‘real fight’ - they actively endanger the mma fighter, even when they’re doing everything according to what they should be doing in an MMA bout.

Top position on the ground? Enjoy your life with brain damage after a run of the mill idiot shatter your cranium with a football kick.

The harsh reality that a lot of mma fans don’t want to face is that the best thing to do in a real fight, is stay on your feet, hit hard, hit fast, and get away from it.

 

[StrikerKing]

There are massive parts of MMA that aren’t just ineffectual in ‘real fight’ - they actively endanger the mma fighter, even when they’re doing everything according to what they should be doing in an MMA bout.

Top position on the ground? Enjoy your life with brain damage after a run of the mill idiot shatter your cranium with a football kick.

The harsh reality that a lot of mma fans don’t want to face is that the best thing to do in a real fight, is stay on your feet, hit hard, hit fast, and get away from it.

I agree. There is a reason that virtually all martial arts that developed through combat emphasize avoiding the ground or trying to throw your opponent to the ground while remaining standing. Shooting a double is a terrible idea in a self defense situation.

 

[cburm]

Francis only proved reality you can't jump into boxing with mediocre training and a few years of on and off training you did years ago vs a young hw boxing champion and think you were gonna win

He proved what most people thought
But man if he could a pulled it off it would a put hope and change for a lot of things.

It also proved styles make fights in boxing also franks left switch and power may be the way Tyson gets beaten with his technical point strategy or Tyson really didn't train or took it to lightly idk I'd watch a 3rd one to find out though

 

[Thecyborgmj23]

Francis “The Dublin Queen” Ngannou looms!

 

[JustforBROCK]

Says the loser who's been expressing his opinion on here since 2010.

Kid, stop scrolling thru week old posts looking for a reason for your pussy to hurt. If you took the comment personally it's because that's you - and comparing our time here and post counts I'd say get a fucking life.

 

[bjjwar]

Gane, genius. You're saying because Francis played it safe on top of Gane means he wouldn't be able to do anything against AJ on the ground. Gane has 3 submission wins, 2 against UFC heavyweights, and AJ doesn't have a fraction of Gane's ground training.


I'll just ignore this nonsense since you don't even know what we're talking about. Just stop being stupid.

Honestly if you think Francis grappling game is amazing, you should just stop watching mma lol.

 

[The Doe Slayer]

No not really, hee just some poor dude from Africa or wherever he's from, who could hit hard and likes money.

 

[don't ask]

Honestly if you think Francis grappling game is amazing, you should just stop watching mma lol.

Can you quote were i said his grappling game was amazing? Why do shitposters always have to make up words instead of reading the words that are actually written?

 

[squatchi26]

no, MMA does a good job of embarrassing itself without Francis.

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

His excuses and accusing AJ's camp/the Saudis of poisoning him are definitely embarrassing