Correlation between attempted guillotines and losing fights?

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  1. GreatWhiteBuffalo

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    I wonder if the guillotine will soon become obsolete in the same way the armbar has. It seems like so many attempts end up not finishing, in poor position, losing the round, and having gassed out arms. Even only very rocked opponents it seems like a poor choice. Any sort of database for that info?
     
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    It works pretty well for Faber and Ortega
     
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    Ask Chad how he feels about it.

    Teep the tummy.

    Rearrange his facial structure.

    Nobody can take that LEFT.
     
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    I don’t agree that armbars are obsolete. Unlike armbars though, guillotine attempts don’t usually risk losing position. Yeah you can gas your arms, but most experienced fighters know when to crank and when to give it up.

    I can’t think of a whole lot of recent fights where going for a guillotine bit someone in the ass
     
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    The guys talking about it becoming obsolete nowadays so you bring up a dude who peaked years ago
     
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    Dustin DIamond just beat Eddie with failed guillotines
     
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    I lost a ton of jiu jitsu matches due to failed guillotines

    Once I got my blue belt i started finishing them.
     
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    to make matters worse, judges seem to give points to fighters for surviving guillotines (e.g. Sanchez/ Fitch)
     
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    Miocic vs overeem. If overreem didnt go for that choke he would've been UFC heavyweight champ IMO.
     
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    That is a good example and it was a very odd choice Reem made in the heat of the moment.
     
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    Overeem seems to do it in every fight after he rocks his opponent instead of going for the tko.
     
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    watch alan belcher-okami. Its about as a low fight iq as you will ever see in your life
     
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    Annnnd that’s bedtime.
     
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    No one does it like CM Punk.

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    I really thought those were going to be his demise
     
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    Guilltine attempts risk losing position if fighters pull guard.

    Armbars can be landed from bottom as well, only risk losing guard.

    They are both solid tactics at the right time in fights
     
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    He should have gone for the DDT, gotta stick to what you know.
     
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    Usually he has amazing guillotines
     
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    Gotta give it to him though. Those were some vicious body shots he did there.
     
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